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I'm in Denver and have been trading here since 1999. Never heard of the type firm you are looking for, on the equity side. Maybe there is something like that on forex side. PM me if you want, I can tell you about all (the few that there are) prop firms in Denver.

Thanks TM good advice,

I was really just posing as a random question. But the premise would be if you were on a island or sailboat and took 5 years off and never looked at the price. Which will be worth more in 5 years?

Probably the right answer.

GM market cap around 11 Billion Goog around 130 Billion Don't touch the money for 5 years, at the end of 2010 which will make you more money? I say GM

I have contaced MS, They really do not care to give out anyinformation to me. I guess I am trying to figure if it is worth it to fight it, or just accept it, and believe it will not affect me in the future.

Thanks for the link. I'll check it out.

I worked for Morgan Stanley for just over 2 years. I quit working for them in April 1999 and started trading for a prop firm. This pass weekend I received an amened U-5 from Morgan Stanley. It turns out they say a client of mine complained " that all agreements with Morgan Stanley are null...

I am only talking equities not futures. Yes I make money but that doesnt mean I want 30K locked up in a firm for a year. Getting real backing is easier said then done. Plus I can make money trading a 500K account but trading a 5,000,000 is a lot harder than adding an extra zero to all my...

I heard Jeff got hit pretty hard with refco. He had a bit of money invested. No doubt Jeff will bounce back. Always enjoyed his company.

Schonfeld ( opus) said the same thing to me. 30K 1 year, Payout drops to 90% take it or leave it.

I do not think it is fair to blame Blythen for ETG being sold. Bleythen was really there to just wrap things up the past few months. Jeff Mester as great of a guy as he is, really stopped paying attention to ETG. From what I hear the group in Atlanta that Sloan is a part of forced Jeff...

Yep Schonfeld guys told me 30K cap contribution, and can't touch it for a year. yadda yadda, I know schonfeld is a pretty good firm and if you trade true prop with them they give tons of BP but only 65% payout. I can't trade true prop with them as I do not live near one of their offices, I...

I know I can go with Assent, Bright, Genesis, etc. It is not so much the leverage as it is the lock on capital. I could always put more capital to get the BP I need, although I woould rather not do that.

I am now with ETG, and with Schonfeld purchasing them I have the option of staying and trading with Schonfeld (or Opus) or switching firms and joining Carlin. Not really too happy with either firm, Both want to keep my capital for 1 year, which is BS since I do not have that with ETG now...

I think you better change your major. If you can't answer these questions, think about switching to politcal science or physical education. You're screwed.

I know I can search and find info on Schoeny, but anybody have any recent comments on them? Talking to the prop side tomorrow, I think he said he was from Opus Trading which was explained to me as the prop side of Schoenfeld. Must be a sub LLC. Anyway, comments would be appreciated.

Bob's been gone, Jeff in a new job I guess, dump their liabilities. If they are really only doing 5 million shares, I would imagine they are not making too much of a profit. Maybe they got something, but not much, Would really like to hear a dollar amount from someone.

5 million shares a day or not as an accurate number, It was a press release, so if it wasn't accurate who is the jackass that put that number in. Goes to show the firms we are dealing with. If they are only doing 5 millin a day, they should have gone out of business a long time ago. I...

he did, but still seems to be running things. I thought it was strange to get the email from him rather than Blythen.