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You ask if the system is over optimized - though I may have opinions, I say that can't *really* be answered with the information you provide. It can be said that if the data that you show the results from is also the data used for optimization then your results are contaminated, period...

>Abrogadan has been a real asset in this thread, >because his assertions are very well reasoned You are very kind. Bless you. JB

>"Don't label us all as Ted Turner Hollywood types." >Instead I find that he is your king! >All I can say is this: are there any atheists out there >who are actually willing to take a moral stand? Ok Shoe, I was wrong. You really are no different than GG. You don't really want to...

>I stayed up late doing some backtesting. In the same boat shoe... Crunching like crazy and keep finding problems with my code. Oh well, that is what is it about in this game. JB

>No, but of course that goes to the issue of choice. >Someone has the choice to have 3 wives but not >their eye color... I like your way of thinking. Aligns with mine perfectly. Now, if we could just agree on whether people choose to be gay or are born that way. NOT NOW...SOME...

>Let me ask you this: if you had a daughter, would >you want her to grow up to be a prostitute? I want my daugher to be engaged sexually only with partners whom she enjoys and who will treat her with the utmost respect. I don't give a rip if they are also giving her money. Now, of...

>Yes, given the state of our country I have to add... Ok, how about Tiki's blond hair, blue eye question. ?? JB

>So are you using this argument to say that >state/community standards can be set? I think he's trying to find out how consistent you are with your beliefs. JB

>let's say a state believes that a certain type of family >structure will produce superior results and that's what >they want their state to "stand for". Well, you may answer your own question. Let's say a state believes that a certain type of family structure (let's say...Utah...

>What's wrong with a nation/culture/community >setting its own standards? Nothing in my book. Generically I believe communities should and should be able to set certain standards. I also believe that a constitution is a good idea and that those standards should be consistant with such...

>Once you kill god, you kill purpose. There is no >purpose without god I'll accept that this is true for you. It is not true for me in any way. I can have no better purpose than to be a true and kind friend to my fellow man. >In the eyes of an atheist, I don't quite >understand why...

>It's not insecurity in myself. It's insecurity that other >people actually might accept what he's posting w/o >thinking about it...It is very difficult for me to let a >vicious and empty attack go w/o responding. Fair enough. Perhaps you can look at it this way... Those that will...

>Look if you wonder why I'm a little upset: look at >what GG called the person I have devoted my life >to. He did it w/o any foundation or justification - he >just flippantly called him an idiot. And you ask why >I have a twisted perception of humanists? Yes, I can ask why you aren't...

>However, there is no "innate" morality in anyone. >Nobody is born with a basic moral compass -- that >is created through environment, upbringing and >circumstance. That is where we differ. It is easy to credit evolution with the building of an internal compass. Let's start with the...

>I did not say that. Uh...we'll get back to that. >People will do whatever they believe best serves >them, their immediate family and their "pack." That's what people with no morals do. (and don't confuse morals with religious ethics). >If there weren't any laws, what would stop...

>What would be so bad if your kids saw Mr. and Mrs. Johnson >(no pun intended of course) working on the yard in their >birthday suits? >Isn't this just another silly religious tradition? Yes JB

>If one will not answer to God, then they must still >answer to the state. Whether one does not kill because >he is afraid of punishment from his or her god or whether >he or she fears the repurcussions of his or her actions >when viewed by the state, morality is then reduced to >a...

>The fact that neutrino had a 50/50 chance of >predicting the trend still remains. This is an opinion of course, not a fact. There is quite a difference and stating it as fact does not make it so. >Abogdan could have just as easily stopped posting >and ignored the thread, back when...

>Congratulation! You proved one more time >that Earth is flat! Good work! I just love your flair for the dramatic. You and I both know that it takes a lot more of a sample than that to "prove" anything statistically. No, nothing was proven...but "profits" were taken in a quite...

ROFLMAO!!! That's funny. Nice work Shadow. JB