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ig0r: >The reason why your backtest is failing >could be as simple as you're not calculating >the minimum swing correctly. Hey Gary, forgetting the above for a moment (which may or may not be true), do you have any results that disagrees with the overall system unprofitability that...

>The License is computer specific. While perhaps you are technically correct (I don't even attempt to interpret the legaleeze on those licenses) I don't think that is a good way to describe it. I have purchased one copy of WL and was allowed to install it on my desktop AND my laptop. The...

abogdan, As was previously pointed out, you can't just open up a B/A file in WL and display a chart. As was also pointed out you can import the data and format it in such a way as to make it available for testing. As an aside I quickly wrote a small VB program that formats my B/A data for...

>You can't do same bar exits/entries with WLD >but otherwise it should be fine I do them all the time without even breaking a sweat. If I misunderstand your comment then I am not knowing and I apologize. JB

Hey Maestro, Try Wealth-Lab Developer. Built in FIRs, etc. No problems on the multiple stocks, same bar exits/entries etc. Couldn't challenge you without it. ;-) JB

>So hit/lift, is that basically punching in and out >of a trade and not waiting to be hit on the >bid or offer? Yes, I would hit your bid or lift your offer if I was on the other side of your trade and you were using the bid/offer strategy/methodology. JB

I assume it would be called the hit/lift strategy but I would hardly call either of them a "strategy". Of course if I misunderstand you I am not knowing. JB

>dont think abogdan's original intent was >to post a complete system, it was just to >make a point and generate some discussion. You know, that's what I thought too and as you can see I posted my initial gut thoughts regarding his original posted system. As I have said repeatedly, I...

A lot of good ideas Fire. >To minimize chance of catastrophe you >have to constrain the number of flips Apparently, abogdan doesn't agree with us on this on since his lastest system posted contains no such limit. I will code his latest posted system up when I get time, but without...

>The other thought would be to put in a trailing >stop at the target rather than a limit. If the stock >wants to run 5 points, let it. One of the variations to the original system that I coded did just that. There was a slight improvement, but not nearly enough to make it even close to...

abogdan: >Trailing stop was always in our system You keep confusing comments regarding your original posted system and whatever system you happen to be trading for real. Your orginal system as posted HAS NO TRAILING STOP!!! The trailing stop wasn't even mentioned by you until a post 9...

>does the concept not suffer from the problems >all martingales contain, In spite of abogdan's distribution assertion, the originally posted system suffered from just that (and other problems as well). The latest system may be protected from the ultimate number of flips (I emphasize...

>That is for guys like turok and abogdan >to help us other guys. I'm sure you won't rely on me or abogdan to protect your account - that would really be a bad idea. >I find the initial post of intriguing and what to >find out more about it and get the input of the >other trading...

Hi Roxy, Thanks for your posted spreadsheet. I'm a little confused though...the post title says "a simple verification". Don't take this wrong as I'm really trying to understand it -- what is verified by the spreadsheet? Is that a record of whether today the 16th those 10 stocks move...

Cutten, normally I find your posts pretty well thought out, informative and factual. You are SO FAR OFF factually on this one it's amazing. I'll agree on the "innocent until proven guilty" -- let the jury sort the evidence out. But your take on what evidence they say they have is WAY off...

Only slightly paraphrased from two of zdregs posts: >people with no experience and many from no name >colleges but with high grade pt. averages were given >unusual opportunities to violate the rules in an >attempt to make more money for traders and for firm. JB

>Multiplier is the simple ratio between >your target and the average flip loss I figured that would be the case. I just needed it confirmed from you for the purposes of the test. Thanks JB

>just basically opened up a spreadsheet to >find some good numbers. it really helps you >understand what's going on. play around >with it, abogdan has provided us the framework. I understand quite well what's going on. I've got the specialized backtesting software to "play around" far...

>Further, if you want to feel more "professional", >no sweat, simply pay for it and make sure you >get hooked up to the right thing! But don't >believe without checking! That's what I found out. When I was a scalper (I've pretty much converted to things scalable now) I performed a...

Abogdan: >Please let me know if I was clear Well, that depends if I am supposed to glean information from other previous posts or if I am to use only this post as the *complete* system. I don't see any algorithm for determining the new share size at each flip. As I noted in a previous...