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uh yea what he said ;) no really i think you answered the question which was meant for me - your explanation was far better than the one i would have taken the time to give. i appreciate your response and it's clear you know what's going on and have a deep understanding many lack. mb

i would agree with you and add that if we can get to the stage of profitability and consistency then we can most likely continue to get better at it. eventually if the conditions were right, like keeping secret and non overuse we may be able to achieve near perfection one day. mb

do you just want the trades or how about i just give the system details. mb like gimmie a example of the expected trade output format.

i will be able to accommodate soon i am trying to stay focused on some stuff right now. maybe in a week. i really have a good system on the sp400 funny you asked that. mb

err NOT!

i was head quant for a smith barney office and i didn't take a math test. that's why we have computers, they made me make them some money that was my test. mb oh now btw there were some fancy clothes wearing guys in some other offices who probably did have to take a math test i bet. but...

see i don't think most so called quants are really quants at all. so it doesn't surprise me when i see that they have blown up. mb

peter aan weekly system.

ok, what market would you like a system on? pick one. mb btw i agree with you generally, but there are some exceptions. myself and some others from the old omega list still give give give even to people we don't know. do a search sometime you will change your mind...

i plan to fully update oddball soon and fully/freely disclose many more versions i never talked about before. i think it will be the best stuff ever. mb ps i have a day trade version too.

i have a program that interfaces tt data directly into ts2000i. mb

the main problem is that you have to test as many trades as possible. like 20,000 to 100,000 trades per method then you will know better about what a system will do. mb

god i think there is more opportunity that ever cause just look at all the JUNK methods out there.. want to build a great system - just counter trade the well known methods and you have it. mb

If you post many more pictures of your method on much more data I would be more than happy to shoot holes in your model all day long. Plus if you think you have something worth while - your mistaken. Successful modelers throw out much more valuable ideas than this example because they...

Mathematically Predicting the Future? Has it Can it be done? As I watch, look and read everything available about trading I have to wonder where did all this junk come from. More than ever I think many people talking about trading using this and that method. Meaning the methods are not...

maybe one day i will auction off a copy of it on ebay... but it wouldn't be much value without the verbal part which wasn't written down. the oddball system is the results of at least one portion of the holy grail which is finding cyclical market action which can be exploited. mb i...

it's really not the software that makes you a winner. it's the software that makes you confident in what your doing along with ton's of hard work for years, getting "grounded"! there is no substitute for experience and even then if you only learn one way that may not be the best way...

exactly the point..

i had dinner with stan finney and he took a piece of paper that i had with me and he drew out the very holy grail of trading i kid you not. i have the original paper now after 15 years. i am going to frame it and hang it on my wall with the other million dollar art work that i have...

The absolute best trader in the world, past or present is Stan Finney.