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i'm not arguing that the US is more liquid than the pit. volume is alot higher in the ZB. but the total open interest refects both pit and electronic since they are supposed to be same markets.....well, supposed to be untill they fix the mistakes with the large spreads between the 2. when i say...

lol...as i have said employees for CBOT here.

you think everything the CBOT tells you is true? they want you to trade electrnic. this way when you get raped by a 10 point spread the broker tells you"what can you do fast market" however if you traded the pit there is no spread. its the leader. as i have said electronic mimmicks the pit...

not to mention the huge spread between the electronic and pit of the same market. keep in mind its the electrnic that follows the fit. you want to trade the follower you want to trade the leader much like the SP and ES. the ES mimicks the SP...... see what i mean? alot of CBOT employees here...

how many ticks slippage on your stop?

same here. i started a post about getting mugged in the electrnic markets and i posted here and boy did i get the business. it seems like there are alot of people that are employees for the CBOT...ha ha. since i started trading the pits again on the 30 year bond futures i have 3 straight...

i totally agree. as ive said many times if you look at the structure of a daily chart for the pit traded markets you will see good points of support and resistance levels. pit markets have structure. the markets actually have trading hours and trading sessions. with the electronic markets they...

thats a market order. you have no idea where you're going to get filled and it is always higher when buying and lower when selling which is why i never place market orders. i'm talking about stop orders. that is the issue here. how much slippage on a stop order will determine if you can trade...

you are right about having the price have to go thru your limit in order to get filled. this does hurt especially when your profit objective is hit and you think you're out and then after it just hits your limit it comes back down again and you get stopped out. that has happened to me and is...

lol...good comeback.

that's excellent. what do yu mean by one contract? would it make a diffrence if you had more than one? i heard you can throw a 100 contracts at the es without having any effect on it or your fills.

you're right about the wide tick. you can say the asame for bonds which the minimun tick is 31.25 which is by far the widest for all commodities.

ha ha. i hear u. hope u didnt lose much on those. that can happen to anyone. you mean to tell me that you had stop orders working going into the unemplyment report to enter a trade and no slippage?

he's just another marketer. i would never buy books unless i see proof that the author really made money himself. very few people have made money in commodities. i never even heard of john carter. i heard of jimmy carter but he made money selling peanuts.

i have been trading the ES for the past year. i have not even had one trade with slippage. this seems to be a very liquid market which is good. my hats off to the CME. did anyone ever have a stop order while a big report came out like the CPI or GDP last week? did anyone ever experience any...

i hope you're right.

sadly i have to admit you're right. the most accurate and best market to trade has been the US 30 year bond. if you look at the charts they make excellent swing moves for short term positions. the charts make great patterns and open and close during the peak liquidity hours. now with these...

i'm the person that now trades the pits from now on and i have just made some money today going short. i am happy thats who i am. i didnt start this thread. i am glad to see that there are people that agree with me that the pits are the best markets. long live the pits!

on elite trader you're a millionaire. in real life you're a shmuck. let me see your account statement to prove it you lying shmuck.

there are obviously alot of sick people in here that know nothing about trading. and then there seems to be a few people in here that are smart and benefited from my post since they had similar problems with the electrnic zb. it is shocking to see the immaturity and stupidity in such great...