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Would the fees be the same or extra for routing to BOX ?

Me too. The first trade they made was buying IWM put calendar. It's not easy to loose money on that one.

Thanks! You are right it is not a limited risk stategy. The stock could go down to zero. I was thinking about limited risk on the down size because I did not buy 100 shares of stock.

This is just an idea for delta neutral trade for me. Sell OTM call spread and buy stock to offset the delta. Example: Sell AAPL Feb 90/95 call for $1 with total delta -12 , Gamma -.68, Theta .97, Vega -1.7 Buy 12 AAPL at 84.29. I plotted P&L graph it shows large profit zone at...

Bough 2 spy 124 Jan put back for $0.05. Profit $195. This profit is a bit superficial because it offset the paper lost on Feb long put I had. They pretty much wash out. I'll report that lost next month when I actually have the lost. At TOS +1 Jan 123 Put +1 Jan 124 Put -2 Jan 125 Put...

Bought TSO 30 shares @69.63 Reason: I sold TSO Feb 70/75 call for $1.4. Somehow, it's going strong. Right now the delta of TSO was -20. I bought TSO to hedge the spread if TSO keeps moving up. My profit zone at expiration is from $65 to $72.

All trades were done yesterday (01/10/06). Bought back spy Jan 124 for $0.10 $90 profit. This was part of calendar Jan/Feb 124. Looking to roll later when the market drops more. Sold spy 130 Jan call $0.40. Break even. SOLD -1 VERTICAL AAPL 100 JAN 06 80/75 PUT @.75 ISE, AAPL MARK...

Here was my SPY positions at TOS: The 129 call was generating too much delta for my test. At TOS +1 Jan 123 Put +1 Jan 124 Put -2 Jan 125 Put -1 Jan 129 Call +1 Jan 130 Call -1 Feb 124, +Feb 125 put. At IB -1 jan 122 Put, +1 Feb 124 Put -1 Jan 123 Put, +1 Jan 121 Put -1 Jan...

SOLD -1 VERTICAL CDIS 100 FEB 06 40/35 PUT @1.55 ISE, CDIS MARK 40.17 I sold this based on probability of winning together with mildly bullish view. This gives me about 69% chance of winning. SOLD -1 VERTICAL VLO 100 FEB 06 52.5/50 PUT @.55 ISE, VLO MARK 55.94. I sold this based on...

BOT +1 VERTICAL GOOG 100 FEB 06 400/390 PUT @1.20 ISE, GOOG MARK 472.93 The profit $1.20 is apply toward Feb 400/410 put spread here. I won't count the profit yet until this trade is over. sold Jan 390/400 put spread $1.35 sold Feb 400/410 put spread $1.8 with extra $1.20 expectancy.

If I choose probability trading, I'd take max loss. If I close the trade earlier, I'm afraid I might mess up my probability. If I trade spread base on technical signal, I close it base on technical signal and/or when my theta become negative.

Mo, Thanks for your questions. It always give me something to think as if you are helping me learn by question me. Here is summary of my goog sold Jan 390/400 put spread $1.35 sold Feb 390/400 put spread $2.5 sold Feb 400/410 put spread $1.8 My risk/reward ratio is quite...

Here is the rules I use. I close a trade when 1. In credit selling, when I get 80% of the credit. 2. If the underlying move quite far away and I don't see any danger, I'll let it expire. However, if I need to free my margin, I'd look at #1. 3. I'd take quick profit if the...

SOLD -1 VERTICAL GOOG 100 FEB 06 410/400 PUT @1.80 ISE, GOOG MARK 465.08 Reason: bullish on goog SOLD -1 VERTICAL TSO 100 FEB 06 70/75 CALL @1.40 ISE, TSO MARK 66.97 TSO ran up quite a bit in last couple days. Last time TSO resistance was around $70 when there was hurricane crisis. I...

My total SPY delta became -13 and my spy view is bullish so I sold 124/125 Feb call for $0.20 That brought my delta down to -7. At TOS +1 Jan 123 Put +1 Jan 124 Put -2 Jan 125 Put -1 Jan 129 Call +1 Jan 130 Call -1 Feb 124, +Feb 125 call. At IB -1 jan 122 Put, +1 Feb 124 Put -1...

I was watching my spy positions At TOS +1 Jan 123 Put +1 Jan 124 Put -2 Jan 125 Put -1 Jan 129 Call +1 Jan 130 Call At IB -1 jan 122 Put, +1 Feb 124 Put -1 Jan 123 Put, +1 Jan 121 Put -1 Jan 126 Put, +1 Mar 126 Put -1 Jan 124 Put, +1 Feb 124 Put -1 Jan 124 Put, +1 Feb 123 Put...

Mo, My limit is 45 days and today is 45 days till expiration. I still don't know how much negative gamma should I be concern. I think when that situation rise, I'd know. Nick

Sold Goog 390/400 Feb Put for $2.50. Reason, a little bullish on goog news when goog Stock Price Target Rises to $600 by Piper Jaffray Analyst. I don't really have opinion whether it will be $600 or not but I feel that it should not come down to below $400 in Feb.

Sold AAPL JAN 06 67.5/70 credit put spread for $0.60. Reason: With the release of FOMC, I feel bullish on the market as a whole and AAPL is one of a good leader.

Thanks! I hope to see myself somewhere in step 36 in the future. Not any time soon.