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    Swing trading with Butterflies

    I wish I could tell you that its part of a highly-honed earnings strategy... ...but no, I hadn't noticed that earnings are today! :banghead: Thanks for the heads-up. :thumbsup: Thankfully, this one is a small position, so if TSLA falls further, a total loss will not be a catastrophe. Per...
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    Swing trading with Butterflies

    The RUT debit Call Spread (#270) closed today in profit. Trade date: 14 October 2022 Security: RUT Price at opening: 1,738.0 Structure: AtM/ItM Call Debit Spread Expiry date: 21 October 2022 Strikes: 1705 / 1740 Opening Spread: 20.20 Close date: 18 October 2022 Trade duration: 4 Closing spread...
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    Swing trading with Butterflies

    Got another signal to run a Call Fly - rather than usual Put flies - so opened a small experimental position: Trade date: 18 October 2022 Security: TSLA Price at opening: 220.7 Implied Vol 110.1% Direction: Call Expiry date: 21 October 2022 Strikes: 230 / 235 / 240 Structure: 1 / 2 / 1 Opening...
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    Swing trading with Butterflies

    Given the recent discussion about swing trading with verticals, I've put together a template and will report those trades here as well as the Butterflies and Calendar spreads. Opened these on Friday: Trade date: 14 October 2022 Security: ES Price at opening: 3,672.0 Structure: AtM/OtM Put...
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    Swing trading with Butterflies

    I brought closing orders in during the gyrations yesterday, and the other Calendar spread (#264) closed in profit. Trade date: 10 October 2022 Security: RUT Price at opening: 1695.9 Direction: Put Expiry date (short side): 14 October 2022 Implied Vol (short side) 45.0% Expiry date (long side)...
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    Excel formula question.

    Use the RANK function to number your peaks and troughs, then use the date as the operator. If date of MAX > date of MAX-1, then Peaks are rising As mentioned by others, there may be a more elegant solution using VBA or Python, and remember that with Excel there are usually many ways to skin a...
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    Excel formula question.

    The formula will be straightforward. As you have seen, defining it is the difficult bit! For ease of auditing / unpicking / modifying later, keep those three or four formulae in separate columns and then add them up (or whatever operator as appropriate) rather than nesting them all in one...
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    Swing trading with Butterflies

    The Nasdaq Calendar put (#264) closed today at a good profit. RUT has been moving around so not sure how that one will go. Trade date: 10 October 2022 Security: NQ Price at opening: 10930.9 Direction: Put Expiry date (short side): 14 October 2022 Implied Vol (short side) 45.1% Expiry date...
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    Swing trading with Butterflies

    Although the thread title is Swing Trading, I use different approaches for my swing trades and the Calendars and Flies that I write about on here @Adam777 I probably need to clarify with a new thread or something as I can't change the thread title. You're right in that I use Donchian channels...
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    Swing trading with Butterflies

    Opened a couple of Calendars on Nasdaq and Russell 2000. Trade date: 10 October 2022 Security: RUT Price at opening: 1695.9 Direction: Put Expiry date (short side): 14 October 2022 Implied Vol (short side) 45.0% Expiry date (long side): 17 October 2022 Implied Vol (long side) 37.6% Strikes...
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    Swing trading with Butterflies

    I use Kelly for position sizing @qlai , reduced for the number of securities that I'm trading. Also, my account balance is spread across other securities / strategies. For illustrative purposes, for a USD100k account, I might allocate 25% to this. Kelly then suggests a VaR of say 50%, but as...
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    Swing trading with Butterflies

    How sweet! ^^^^ Now that everybody has everybody else on ignore, we'll have to cope without E-I's valued contributions and get back to the grown-up stuff; making money and reporting how. I was nervous that the RUT Calendar (#242) would expire at a loss, but closing orders filled soon after RUT...
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    Swing trading with Butterflies

    Response to E-I's comment in #248 "but it seems you didn't like my reply and have blocked me" If you look back through my thread you will see that I welcome comments and/or reasoned challenge from people with experience, insight, knowledge, and/or intellectual curiousity. I looked at your...
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    Swing trading with Butterflies

    Thanks @taowave I can't see/reply to E-I but responses would be: q. Is it really that easy to make such big profits with such 3 or 4 legged butterflies? a. If it were easy, everyone would be doing it! ;) Go back a couple of pages and look at some losing trades. Luckily, my wins exceed my...
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    Swing trading with Butterflies

    SPX Fly closed the day after it was opened, in profit. Trade date: 04 October 2022 Security: SPX Price at opening: 3,777.1 Implied Vol 30.1% Direction: Put Expiry date: 07 October 2022 Strikes: 3670 / 3705 / 3775 Structure: 2 / 3 / 1 Opening Spread: 10.25 Close date: 05 October 2022 Trade...
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    Swing trading with Butterflies

    Opened a Put Fly on S&P500 yesterday. Trade date: 04 October 2022 Security: SPX Price at opening: 3,777.1 Implied Vol 30.1% Direction: Put Expiry date: 07 October 2022 Strikes: 3670 / 3705 / 3775 Structure: 2 / 3 / 1 Opening Spread: 10.25 Conviction isn't strong on this one.
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    Swing trading with Butterflies

    Opened another Russell 2000 Calendar. Trade date: 03 October 2022 Security: RUT Price at opening: 1701.2 Direction: Put Expiry date (short side): 07 October 2022 Implied Vol (short side) 39.9% Expiry date (long side): 10 October 2022 Implied Vol (long side) 34.1% Strikes: 1660 Opening Spread: 3.40
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    Swing trading with Butterflies

    Was away for the weekend and didn't add this as it filled after I left my desk, and has already closed today in profit. Trade date: 30 September 2022 Security: RUT Price at opening: 1,697.3 Implied Vol 29.0% Direction: Put Expiry date: 03 October 2022 Strikes: 1660 / 1700 / 1740 Structure: 1 /...
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    Swing trading with Butterflies

    Thanks for the example @cesfx A couple of thoughts: after the 100-point rise, my temptation would also be to take the almost`100% profit (depending on dte) and close the position. But I'll explore the fly conversion further and run some simulations. a minor point perhaps, and I appreciate...
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    Swing trading with Butterflies

    Thanks @cesfx Q: I read that you also trade longer term verticals. Do you ever convert them into riskless fly's? A: I do, and I haven't. Something for me to consider though. Can you share a practical example pls? Q: Do you use any scanner to pick your calendars and fly's or is it all...
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