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    1/4% Tax on all stock trades pushed in NY Times today

    Expatriation tax: http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/international/article/0,,id=97245,00.html
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    1/4% Tax on all stock trades pushed in NY Times today

    And that is the point. The sponsors of the bill ostensibly want people to buy and hold rather than do short-term speculation, in order to lend stability to the markets. Other supporters like Krugman are even more specific: they hate high frequency traders who don't do anything socially redeeming...
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    1/4% Tax on all stock trades pushed in NY Times today

    I think most of Schwab's revenue is from its advisory services. Their active daytraders, especially from Cybertrader, have probably long left for less expensive firms. My point is that if the cost difference between brokers is now less than a third instead of a factor of 10, the brokers will...
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    1/4% Tax on all stock trades pushed in NY Times today

    Since it hits all traders equally, no matter what broker, it would change the trade cost to be $21 at places like IB and $28.95 at places like Schwab. This would hurt IB more than Schwab, as people would see they're now saving less than 1/3 by going to a broker that has longer phone support...
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    1/4% Tax on all stock trades pushed in NY Times today

    The daytrading business will be injured. But discount brokers like Schwab will survive. My first stock purchase was $5K worth of SUNW in 1987. From Schwab. The commission was around 2%. I held onto it through 5 splits. I'm not sure non-daytraders are buying GOOG right now, but suppose a mom and...
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    1/4% Tax on all stock trades pushed in NY Times today

    Sounds like this will *not* affect the vast majority of investors, only high-frequency traders.
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    1/4% Tax on all stock trades pushed in NY Times today

    This wouldn't happen if only quality, diversified companies went public. Companies that consistently lose money (like VG), companies that are selling something that is commoditized (like VMW), companies that have basically a single customer (STEC) should not be public. You don't see companies...
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    1/4% Tax on all stock trades pushed in NY Times today

    Maybe they won't move in crazy ways. Maybe they'll move based on their fundamentals and not on manipulation. Maybe half the listed companies that shouldn't have gone public because they have negative PE and a dubious business plan will get delisted. Maybe people will invest in a company so that...
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    1/4% Tax on all stock trades pushed in NY Times today

    Pro athletes are their own ecosystem. I haven't been to a live game in 35 years. If people want to pay $50 to watch mercenaries battle each other, let them. I haven't been to a movie in 4 years. Again, if people want to pay $12 to sit arm-to-arm with other people for two hours, that's fine...
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    1/4% Tax on all stock trades pushed in NY Times today

    If oil futures had been limited to oil suppliers and oil consumers, the price would have been based on supply and demand, not inflation, speculation, etc.
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    1/4% Tax on all stock trades pushed in NY Times today

    It was not that long ago that we had 1/4 and 1/8 ticks, meaning the spread was often half a percent or more. Despite this, the market went up an average of 11% per year and millions of traders and investors managed to make money.
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    1/4% Tax on all stock trades pushed in NY Times today

    This is well put. But they also need to penalize the guilty parties in cases like AIG, which (a) had losses, not windfall profits, last year and (b) had an offshore subsidiary (in AIG's case, London) doing most of the damage.
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    1/4% Tax on all stock trades pushed in NY Times today

    OK. Would not be surprised if they intended to include forex. They might need to tighten up the wording a bit. The loose wording in the online gambling prohibition act is why the Fed is delaying its implementation.
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    1/4% Tax on all stock trades pushed in NY Times today

    It is certainly heavy-handed, but any short-term efficiency gain has to balanced by the long-term damage that things like $140 oil did to the country. [b] Thus returning us to the gentler period 50 years ago, where you invested in a company for the long haul, got dividends, took an actual...
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    1/4% Tax on all stock trades pushed in NY Times today

    Unless the bill has changed, it covers only section 31 and CFTC instruments, not forex.
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    1/4% Tax on all stock trades pushed in NY Times today

    The world is full of excise taxes and sales taxes. [b] Yes, they're trying to destroy te business of speculation. [b] It will only penalize speculators. Yes, that includes you and me. It includes GS employees who are getting paid an average of $700K this year. It does really affect mom...
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    gdx is not keepin up

    Some people say that GDX is "due" to "catch up" with gold prices. Maybe that's happening today, with GDX up 6%.
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    1/4% Tax on all stock trades pushed in NY Times today

    I can easily see them either taxing transactions made by US taxpayers on foreign exchanges, or like today with foreign derivatives, just making it illegal to trade them. DeFazio also has an oil futures transaction tax bill pending. .2% on futures. He claims it'll cut down on speculation and...
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    1/4% Tax on all stock trades pushed in NY Times today

    Congresspeople (of either party) are in office to help their constituents. If that means taxing those rich New Yawkers to get money to pay for that new coal mine, they owe it to their constituents to vote that way.
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    1/4% Tax on all stock trades pushed in NY Times today

    Not a good idea to say this. They will flag your name and the IRS will make sure to look at your offshore activity to make sure you pay taxes.
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