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3 mentioned on this forum all the time! but then again you are going to say like Mav that two separate entities, one either selling education or test and one actually a Futures prop so perfectly legal I suppose ;) Meanwhile thousands of suckers go through burning hundreds each month hoping to...

"The firms you mention who are running combines or selling education are NOT the backers. " Yes Mav true, two separate entites to perhaps save their back side ...however they are in bed with each other so to speak, (T3 Live, LLC, T3 Securities, Inc and T3 Trading Group, LLC are separate, but...

Bone, I was not referring to your Education training business, I was referring to so called Prop who has a model where people pay for a test and hope to get funded. They all operate in the Futures domain some of them have Education selling as part of it other;s only have paid test . ( as...

Good observation, but people dont ask such questions because it is is only $195.. time and again people are asking what the real motive of such a business is and they get told off for being negative etc... this is the new frontier of fringe Security business, legal sure, ethical .. h....m Not...

Where are they based? and regulated?

"The Series 57 is solely for deposit "prop shops" that take capital contributions in exchange for providing you with firm capital.... This is the type of scrutiny and regulatory oversight that I was referring to when it comes to "True Prop firms" in other threads irrespective of Equity of Futures

1) Yes the decay is always there so whether you purchase a protective PUT or long a CALL time is your enemy 2) Covered call writing using Futures + Option on futures as compared to Stock + Stock option is a valid strategy How ever the extra leverage could be a double edged sword in Futures...

I thought about that , since there are weekly options, but then again, Protecting a long ES position with a ATM or slightly OTM PUT = purchasing a CALL! Perhaps you can partially protect a Es position with a Option spread either using Exchange Traded Option spreads or something like Nadex...

Hi Robert May be I should clarify bit better what I am proposing is more of a "funding firm" model based on "First loss principal" aimed at retail level ,rather than a very pure prop where the firm takes all the risk. BUT IN THIS MODEL THE FIRM WILL NOT CHARGE ANY TEST FEES OR SELL EDUCATION...

Please see my post here https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/funding-new-traders-search-for-a-better-business-model.323323/

Hello I admit I have criticized the business practices of some of the "Prop firms" recently bit more aggressively. But honestly my aim was and is still to find a better solution for both sides One which achieves ( repeat form other post) 1) The "Prop Firm" is protected from unnecessary volume...

Could not agree more , however the dilemma is ( and it is this "dilemma" on which these business thrive are built upon but keeping aside the ethics of this what about a solution) A) If you dont have a degree and cant be hired by real top level prop firms or fund mangers via campus interview...

"I’ve spent more than I would get in a funded account...:banghead: thanks for being open about it..THAT IS THE CRUX OF THE MATTER but pointing it out is unpopular! There has to be a better business model where 2 things can be achieved 1) The "Prop Firm" is protected from unnecessary volume to...

Technology is one thing and it's use is another! Our FIAT currency is almost digital any way as no body carries thousands in their pocket any way now a days, so from that point of view digital currency and it's technology is valuable If the entire world or most of it drops individual...

"I looked at the firms you mentioned, I had only heard of Citadel. It seems the general consensus with all of them is they are mainly internationally based, heavy on equities/options/fixed-income, So what? if they are in Equity and Options and they may or may not be in Futures ... what diff...

If the "applicant" is not experienced then it seems you have to purchase their training! do you know how much? which raises the same questions again, are they in the business for recruiting talent or fishing for "Training" fees !

ok understand the definition and the logic why then they dont need to be regulated! it is like a grocery store doing an ICO where you exchange your real currency in to the Grocery store token, but why ?t why one has to purchase the Utility tokens... one can just participate by using real...