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what are you talking about? There is no big spread in mini crude there are different product spreads: a spread called the crack spread, there is a spread between WTI and Brent, there is a spread between natty gas and WTI. There is no spread in the minis the bid and ask is tight. There might...

Trader Nik, I caught that in your comment just trying to help a noobie out so he doesn't blow out! Anyone trying to trade futures right not should not step into the Treasuries or Energy right now too volatile and someone new with no risk control will blow their account out.

you obviously don't trade it at all; the risk it NOT LIMITED to watch it move 70 cents in less than a minute (this afternoon) is very risky! If you were short a 5 lot you just lost 3500 in less than a minute what are you talking about?

I trade it it does not respect technicals and is all over the place but if you trade the extremes you can pull out thousands trading one or two lots or lose it! Not something I would recommend to a new trader in futures.

a 1 lot is $10 and you would not trade 230 contracts with 25 grand you would blow out in about 5 minutes the thing moves 50 cents in a minute. You can trade 1 lots and easily lose 2 grand in about half an hour and if you showed that size you would get taken out. 230 contracts = $2300 per...

I never thought I would see the day when the Spooz were thicker than the treasuries the Bondo dropped 10 ticks in one two min bar from 26 to 16 then I bought 8's saw it go to 5 then rally up to 29.5 this shit is gnarly! Trying not to get blown out for the day!

Bernard I get churned out sometimes but if you can keep your losses to a minimum on the day when something like that happens you can wait for the excess and jump on it. Buying anything under 10 today and selling anything around 30 was a good trade. Wait for those opportunities. But it is a...

how bout' that Bondo sell off from 24 to 8 back up to 24? Pro-style carnage... we'll see how long these steepeners are pushed harder and harder, 2/30 over 300BP!

the bond is on crack the whole curve is on crack! Whoa talk about whipsaw action!:confused:

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=119353

Autospreaders are not working right now you do have to leg everything, that being said I have taken time off spreading and am trading the curve outright now. Too expensive to get hung on size in any cash product right now!

the fu$ked thing right now is that treasuries are so much more volatile than the spooz the spooz are trading like the treasuries used to and the treasuries are trading like the spooz used to! The spooz just sit in a 2-3 handle range for an hour then move 4 handles in 1 minute very odd. The 1/2...

FU$KING BRUTAL the moves are so exaggerated!

check out the thread below "anyone else short the US 30 yr Bond" we have been on this topic for months...

don't worry bro, I try to fade the thing and ruin my whole day sometimes it is hard as a trader to see something move so much and not fade it even though the last 6 months have been volatile it still is difficult to buy something when it is up a handle overnight! Half ticks Monday we'll see how...

When this thing moves don't ask why no one cares about inflation (the FED- like they don't care about the dollar!) just jump on board in the last month or so I have seen this thing sell off two handles from 2pm to 3pm once and rally 3 handles in two days the mkt is trading on emotion and there...

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short covering anyone? equities are about to tank again and the bond rally resumes with the June Roll? we'll see bonds are up a lot overnight!

it definitely does! he has posted about ten this week that all ask the same question and you people out there keep answering them

I say 20