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    More Bidders for REFCo

    he made a cool $1bio for himself on shinsei (=newly born)... not bad hey
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    latest refco news

    this from edgar / refco's ipo docs fyi: Refco Inc. and Subsidiaries Unaudited Pro Forma Consolidated Balance Sheet as of November 30, 2004 (in thousands) http://sec.freeedgar.com/EFX_dll/EDGARpro.dll?FetchFilingHTML1?SessionID=wU%5FMIiXvgBkBoxD&ID=3597724#A2149035ZS-1_HTM_TOC_DH10213_2...
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    RefcoFX vs. Oanda

    so whats new?...... chood - you may find this interesting: http://faculty.haas.berkeley.edu/lyons/Yao%20FX%20dealer%20profits.pdf#search='fx%20trade%20shading' cheers
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    Refco Owes Jim Rogers Fund $362 Million

    many thks for yr earlier response rufus_4000, yep, have client accts as well, not looking at credit wrap type structure presently, but yr response gives me some good pointers as to the possible purpose of some clauses i particularly dislike in my 'prime' 's draft contract... cheers!
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    Refco Owes Jim Rogers Fund $362 Million

    #1 link, thks setharb! so... abadi & co's a creditor hey? Abadi & Co. Securities $28,046,904 .... mhhhh
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    Refco Owes Jim Rogers Fund $362 Million

    can u elaborate plse, re why it becomes unsecured? (i am in the midst of prime brokerage services type negotiations, altho' for fx spot trading essentially at this point, and perhaps fx cfds etc, also secured agreement on designated segregated client acct with my 'prime', therefore v.interested...
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    Refco FX account withdrawl frozen!!!

    other interesting url to monitor, since thats where refco's filed for chap 11 (UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY COURT Southern District of New York ) but nothing available on the filing itself yet... wait'n'see:@http://www.nysb.uscourts.gov/
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    Refco FX account withdrawl frozen!!!

    thought this cld be useful, straight from edgar... worth reading additional stuff about the sale (MoU-stage) to jcflowers on http://sec.freeedgar.com/displayText.asp?ID=3962406 : Also on October 17, 2005, the Company and certain of its subsidiaries (collectively, the "Debtors") filed...
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    Refco FX account withdrawl frozen!!!

    straight from refco llc... just had the curiosity to look this up, interesting what they write about refco's liabilities, segregated accts etc (read the right-hand side column from the top): http://www.refco.com/PDF/new_accounts/individual_joint_acct/cust_agreement.pdf obviously hindsight...
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    Refco Fallout

    www.refcoclassaction.com but thats only for investors, not customers...
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    Abuse amongst traders

    good 1 :-))))))))
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    Abuse amongst traders

    cheers Apex ;-) yeah, i am actually (not using aliases etc) don't disagree with yr other post on this thread, loads of not directly actionable stuff on ET thats for sure, at the same time its v.difficult to 'police' in an efficient way is it not, and there is also a lot of good stuff there...
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    Refco FX account withdrawl frozen!!!

    broadly correct compared to regulated markets, however there r ways to diminish the risks: - some fx brokers offer segregated accts... u still need to read the fine print tho', and be prepared to spend some time negotiating contractual adjustments with yr broker prior to signing up... am not...
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    Refco FX account withdrawl frozen!!!

    you cld try to sell cable right now on yr refcofx acct and simultaneously hedge on another fx acct you may have with another broker? (there is a reasonable prob. that cable may want to head back towards 1.77 other next 48hrs, after today's BoE release... altho' at the same time, it may not...
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    Refco FX account withdrawl frozen!!!

    thats my boy!!! ;-)))
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    Abuse amongst traders

    excellent, just found out about this feature, thanks! and also how to unsubscribe to a thread when it really becomes boring.... v.simple & efficient features i'd say!
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    Refco Account Security

    Apex dude -- free country i know but... can't we just all move on?? or else s.o. plse tell me how i can unsubscribe to this thread..............
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    Refco Account Security

    OldTrader you're right (apologies for slightly 'editing yr post'), however what wld happen if for instance RCM happens to be a segregated acct holder at Refco LLC, directly or via yet another hegde fund, and holds huge losing pozzies there on CME (eFX or other) contracts, or anything like that...
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    Refco Account Security

    dude -- and its only taken you until the 50th page on this thread to acknowledge this 'minor' risk at Refco LLC??! :-)))))))))))) anyway, guess what really matters now is to determine the true financial situation of each & every entity of the group... that'll take a good few weeks...
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    Refco Account Security

    just got this in my inbox from fxcm: Dear Client, We have received several inquiries regarding the recent news surrounding Refco. In particular, clients have asked how the news about Refco affects FXCM. The answer is: the news has no effect on FXCM or its clients. FXCM is an...
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