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i am not saying you wont face regulation i am talking about the model itself will change. the game never ends remember that. the players might change but the game will go on. just take a look at what fny did went full fledged hedge fund why you ask because they can risk investors money instead...

agreed that is whats happening and if you adapt quick enough and firms adapt as well the new model is going to be a fund model/hedge fund. Pooled money, pooled strategies, pooled profits is the future. The individual daytrader is going by the wayside.

For us to live any other way was nuts. Uh, to us, those goody-good people who worked shitty jobs for bum paychecks and took the subway to work every day, and worried about their bills, were dead. I mean they were suckers. They had no balls. If we wanted something we just took it.

its true most traders loose money and can have addictive personalities and they loose it all. but this guy can trade i heard he makes high 6 figures so hes one of the few that can kill it. but as far as trading for a living, the adrenaline, the stress, all that stuff that goes with the...

been a while since her bull durham days her age starting to creep hard

the liquidity will not be the same it will trade wider and looser. rebate traders will have no choice but to move on from this stock.

but if the order was for 10k and i get 1k a few cents higher the remainder of the order would get filled at the dark venues price but instead of getting 10k off they got 9k. i mean these routes were just made for the instituional person to not have to interact with the retail guy. moving big...

first off good skit and yes i understand that but my whole thing comes down to the trade through rule which is suppose to be enacted through nms. obvioulsy it doesnt cover dark executions or adf trades. but it should otherwise were still dealing with a two tiered market. heres my example...

think about the other side of the trade if they are a seller bring the price down i shorted before this seeing the weakness then i bid to give him back some shares higher than where he would execute through a dark pool do you think the sell side would be opposed to selling 5 or 6 cents higher...

bottom line is anybody who shows price improvement should get a fill either lit or dark price improvement is price improvement trade throughs shouldnt exist thats how sweeps use to work top on down now if dark pool was showing price improvement over my order so be it but thats not the case...

big advantage it makes it a two tiered market. if they would have to go to the displayed market it would be easier for traders to pick them off. dark pools are the secret society way of trading. but i also think other traders should have the same entitlements if i had a route for like 40...

what if a little guy wanted to unload a decent size position that has no liquidity without disturbing the market. atleast they would have access to the same tools as the big instiutions. i mean an institution may have to sell 500k shares and needs to hide his intentions but the little guy might...

because alot of traders retail and prop dont have access to these tools. so the playing field is a little off and the market isnt as transparent as it used to be. anytime you have an event where the big boys have an edge sometimes the little guy makes enough fuss and gets their voices heard. not...

i trade through coastal and they just got foreign access to lse nikkei, ftse, bovspa, couple third world markets as well but to do this you have to trade through sterlings front end. right now i trade through lightspeed with coastal and i know lightspeed has no connectivity to these markets or...

Trade the foreign equity markets it's like the good old days over there. Technology hasn't caught up over there and in some markets trading seems like the mid 90s so if you want to go back in time change your alarm clocks. But in another decade or so even these markets will be very efficient.

liquid name yes but illiquid forget about it and im not paying up with those spreads so i have changed my style. trading liquid 100-300 at a time keeps you under the radar and you can get filled on bigger orders just have to brake em into little pieces like an alog. in the old days taking 5 to...

i agree my take on this is that internalizaton has gotten way out of control. if you try to add liquidity on a illiquid stock it just isnt gonna happen. i have no problem with internalization or dark pools as long as everybody had access to the same tools and info. and even then if i get beat...

paying your bills is all the service you have to do for yourself in life. this providing a service and doing good for the world is just a bunch of bullshit. the government doesnt care what you do as long as you keep paying your quarterly payments. they dont care if you are a doctor, scientist...

stock777 u just arent getting what is happening. here is a better example and this happens all the time now especially in less liquid names. i will be offered at .55 cents on edgx bid is .45 next offer is .60 a market order comes in and miraculously an offer will join my offer 100 shares goes...