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  1. J

    "Why won't God heal amputees?"

    Just found another, I was searching from memory but got a more complete one of the first as well: Music is the one incorporeal entrance into the higher world of knowledge which comprehends mankind but which mankind cannot comprehend. -- Ludwig van Beethoven, quoted by Bettina von Arnin...
  2. J

    "Why won't God heal amputees?"

    Wonder is like creativity. The joy of expression and the never before heard melodic riff... "I despise a world which does not feel that music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy." -- Ludwig van Beethoven Some call it inspiration :-) I find it interesting that in...
  3. J

    "Why won't God heal amputees?"

    Sure it does Stu. It tells me right off if you are interested in serious discussion, or just using rhetorical devices. It is apparent that it is the latter. I'll get around to the answer to your question, but I am in no hurry.
  4. J

    "Why won't God heal amputees?"

    Please Stu, how do you know there are Fairies and why do you believe in them?
  5. J

    "Why won't God heal amputees?"

    Yeah, I should get back to work also. However, your point I agree with, and it underscores mine. The problem with 'evidence' is that how one interprets evidence also can be predetermined by major premises. So we have the problem of the biased sample and the biased filter. How one sees the...
  6. J

    "Why won't God heal amputees?"

    Just pointing out that your argument also emanates from a faith based axiom: that there is no God, therefore all else potentially follows, since accident is the cause of all things, therefore everything follows not from directed causes but from material effects of atomic structures. All...
  7. J

    "Why won't God heal amputees?"

    Correlation implies causation is a logical fallacy by which two events that occur together are prematurely claimed to have a cause-and-effect relationship. In this type of logical fallacy, one makes a premature conclusion about causality after observing only a correlation between two or more...
  8. J

    "Why won't God heal amputees?"

    I've read some of your other posts, Stu and know BS when I see it. You seek to promote the fallacy of the irrelevant conclusion: instead of arguing the fact in dispute, the arguer seeks to gain his point by diverting attention to some extraneous fact. The fallacies are common in platform...
  9. J

    "Why won't God heal amputees?"

    Have a good weekend with the wife you love, regardless of the illogic of it all :-) I enjoyed the debate.
  10. J

    "Why won't God heal amputees?"

    Do you love anyone? A wife perhaps? A child? What is logical about love? Yet where would life be without it? I go back to my prior premise. You have faith that there is no God, but you cannot prove it. See my post on statistical samples and the fallacy of generalization. So you take it...
  11. J

    "Why won't God heal amputees?"

    First of all, you yourself do not believe in fairies nor that they have infinite powers, so you are being disingenuous. By casting ridicule on a premise that you yourself do not hold, you seek to use the illicit minor as a means of discounting the major premise. Now, the same argument for...
  12. J

    "Why won't God heal amputees?"

    You mean only people who do not believe have the right to speak and occupy the public square? Freedom of speech, religion, and expression is okay only so long as everyone agrees with you? :-) And your faith was shipwrecked on the shoals of Fundamentalism most likely? False faith in a...
  13. J

    "Why won't God heal amputees?"

    I am just curious. You were a bible thumper. Did you ever have a 'born again' experience, which is the main thrust of most Baptists? I am wondering why you are putting so much effort and emotion into this thing, for what does it matter? If there is no God, "let the blind lead the blind."...
  14. J

    "Why won't God heal amputees?"

    It is called the "fallacy of many questions." It is committed when someone asks a question that presupposes something that has not been proven or accepted by all the people involved — i.e., a premise is included which is at least as dubious as the proposed conclusion. For example, the...
  15. J

    "Why won't God heal amputees?"

    It also has the sun moon and stars created after the plants in Gen 1. If you treat the text as an exhaustive scientific treatise, you are going to find the problem of cultural perspective and historical knowledge.
  16. J

    "Why won't God heal amputees?"

    Thou hast laid a snare to trap the hare, but will have none of it. Have you stopped beating your wife?
  17. J

    "Why won't God heal amputees?"

    There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy... Shakespeare, Hamlet, I, v, 191-192. 'Tis a better course of logic to argue from the major to the minor than the other way around. The First Cause or the Unmoved Mover is the better starting point...
  18. J

    "Why won't God heal amputees?"

    Well lkh, perhaps your problem was you tried to prove something without understanding the historical context. James Cameron, of Titanic fame, has led a team that has uncovered evidence of a massive flood that struck the Black Sea area suddenly when the barrier between the Mediterranean Sea and...
  19. J

    "Why won't God heal amputees?"

    You believe there is no God. Since you are not omniscient and since you cannot prove that God does not exist, you accept it on faith. You believe there is no God. It is an article of faith. If you were to approach this problem from an empirical standpoint, you cannot devise a test to test...
  20. J

    "Why won't God heal amputees?"

    It is apparent that you have come to a conclusion and will use logic to bolster your conclusion, but it is not apparent that you have used "all available history." Your question about Paul shows a complete lack of understanding of the history of the reasons and methods and purposes of even the...
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