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profitseer so let me get this clear - you are happily paying 9.60 a round turn because you "think" IB will be more unreliable and neither have you tried a company like Advanced Futures who advertise on here at 4.90 a round turn and even offer a high volume trader good rates with a choice of...

white17 i suspect that u have an account size of less than $25,000 - so that means that u r limited to 3 day trades

SethArb "but at this time its not worth it - why bother when you have the sweet dream of the emini s&p, backed up with the nasdaq, eurostoxx 50, ftse and dax" Were u refering to my quote above when u said 3 - there are 4 of the "back ups" there all good, but there are a lot of prop...

cartm hedging and arbing are what will provide the underlying liquidity and then all of a sudden a certain threshold will be reached and some traders will come in at certain high volume parts of the day, and this will gradually spread and then all of a sudden it will be a high liquidity...

there is no point to trade the $5 dow - its equivelant in value to the S&P mini - but the $5 dow does not have such a narrow and consisitent spread as the S&P emini very occasionally on the $5 dow you can get a point spread, but mostly its around 4/5pts widening out 8/10pts when the market is...

its not leverage that wipes you out - leverage is your freind its lack of tradeable volatility the great thing with currencies is that once they start to trend - they continue - but if you get chopped up trying to get on the right side - you are going to find it hard to keep taking a...

don the floor of a few bars - but not the pit - not even that much trading of any sort as it happens and you are the first person not to tell me i am wrong - i guess i owe u a drink now

Don Bright absolutly, and if i was in the pit - i would be doing the same thing and loving it its a bit more dicey when you do not have the latest up to the moment data - which u can only get in the pit or you have been doing it for so long that you know how to spot the tradeable ones...

regardless of whatever it is called, the difference between the cash and the futures tick by tick during the trading day is always the correct value at that moment in time - otherwise it would not occur it is the change of the value against the prior values during the course of trading day...

its great to hear how i am wrong - but in fact everyone is just agreeing with me its just that i have never really bothered with the use of the word PREM - as a definition i tend to use the terms - "premium" or "discount" to cash to alert myself to the state of the market and of course...

dafugginman i did not mean it to sound that i was saying that others were wrong in how they use Fair Value or that they are wrong in how they describle it in fact they had said i was wrong - and i was replying to that and i said that from the way the responded to my points and teh way...

LouiseJefferson They will have a proprietary system to attempt to get them into the correct side of the trade to move the risk/reward to hopefully the most favourable opportunity - so that if the end up with an unbalanced arb position - they hope the market will move their way to compensate...

first paragraph from my earlier post "the intraday fair value ( as opposed to the technical fair value) is simply the main contract less the cash and this is on a tick by tick basis - although you would want to always be aware that due to various data delivery issues - it will never be...

trade555 ok - makes sense - i did not see your slightly later post which is right on the money! but still frightening that big funds do trade on that basis and have pissed away everyones pension money in Europe with averaging down - and then having to dump on fast down moves and then...

$prem is just a symbol that you can use with some data suppliers to get the intraday tick by tick fair value figure the other points you made - although not entirely incorrect - are not strictly right either and i can see that you have never used fair value to trade from or had any...

any thoughts? only one - prepare to have your bank account emptied out!

quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by trade555 35 pcts a week is easy don't let any of this negative bias about trading is hard discourage you. Just trade enough size and 35 pcts is a piece of cake. The trick is to dollar...

the intraday fair value ( as opposed to the technical fair value) is simply the main contract less the cash and this is on a tick by tick basis - although you would want to always be aware that due to various data delivery issues - it will never be exactly accurate fair value is for sure a...

i cant see how a broker can get away charging that much - does anyone really use them - let alone make money? why would anyone pay that per side when you can less with other brokers per r/t

who is MB and what is their brokerage charge?