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    Conservative Options Strategy

    Friday’s Activity: BUY: 5 CF JAN9 35/40 @ 3.5 BUY: 8 MRO APR 15/17.5 @ 1.85 BUY: 10 XLE JAN10 65/70 @ .98 GTC SELL: 10 XLE DEC 65/70 @ .8 (unfilled) ROLLOUT: SELL: 10 USO JAN9 70/75 @ .95 BUY: 10 USO JAN10 70/75 @ 1.35 ROLLOUT: SELL: 5 TRA DEC 25/30 @ 1.15 BUY: 5...
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    Since the last post: 10/6/08 MONDAY BUY: 10 AUY JAN10 5/7.5 @ 1.85 ROLLOUT: SELL: 8 TDW OCT 45/50 BUY: 8 TDW APR 45/50 COST 4.15 HIS –1707 REF: GLD 84.28, SLV 10.75, UNG 30.99, USO 71.6, DOW 9955, S&P 1056, 88, 146. ***** 10/7/08 TUESDAY ROLLOUT: SELL: 4 AEM NOV...
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    This week’s activity: Journal references: Monday: GLD 89.57 +2.93, SLV 12.95, UNG 31.8, USO 77.09 – 9.12, DOW 10365 –778, S&P 1106 –106. 130 – 125. Tuesday: GLD 85.07, USO 82.0, DOW 10850, S&P 1164, 128-131. Thursday: BUY: 5 AGU JAN09 30/35 @ 3.2 BUY: 5 CF MAY 55/60...
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    Conservative Options Strategy

    increasenow - nope. Not me.
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    Conservative Options Strategy

    This entry is only a reference for the journal. No trades this week in any account. Only activity was just observing the market and its affect on spreads. Monday: GLD 89.2, SLV 13.35, UNG 35.51, USO 87.62, DOW 11015, S&P 1207, 164 Tuesday: GLD 88.32, SLV 13.18, UNG 36.45, USO 86.13, DOW...
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    can there be an ecnomic recovery

    Some advisors are advocating using the $700 billion Fed money to finance lending institution's equity loans and business loans rather than use it to buy bad mortgages. Makes sense to me.
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    Conservative Options Strategy

    Ref: Monday GLD 77.56, SLV 10.95, UNG 34, USO 76.3, DOW 10917 –504, S&P 1193 –59 REF: Tuesday 113-128 REF: Wednesday GLD 85.2 +8.44, SLV 11.9 +1.48, UNG 36.3 +2.78, USO 77.78 +2.8 DOW 10607 –452, S&P 1156 -57, 132-139 REF: Thursday GLD 82.9, SLV 11.75, UNG 35.12, USO...
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    Conservative Options Strategy

    Thanks newguy. Aside from Monday (a day of weeping and screaming), this has been a good week for me so far. I'll post an update after Friday's close.
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    Conservative Options Strategy

    9/9/08 Activity: Another rollout: SOLD 4 ECA OCT 60/65 @ 2.64 BUY 4 ECA APR 60/65 @ 2.5 Original cost of OCT spreads 4.0 Present position cost 3.86, history –555 Journal reference: GLD 76.5, UNG 34.28, SLV 11.15, USO 81.5 ***** Today’s Activity: Beginning around...
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    Conservative Options Strategy

    Today’s Activity: ROLL OUT AND DOWN: SOLD: 4 EOG OCT 85/90 @ 3.05 BUY: 4 EOG APR 80/85 @ 2.95 (COST of new position = 3.8, history –371.2 ROLL UP AND OUT: SOLD: 12 GG OCT 27.5/32.5 @ 1.75 BUY: 12 GG JAN10 30/35 @ 1.65 (COST of new position = 3.9, history...
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    Conservative Options Strategy

    9/3/08 Activity: First use of the “Proposition” posted a couple of days ago. SOLD: 4 DO SEPT 95/100 @ 3.75 BUY: 4 DO MAR 95/100 @ 2.75 Original cost of spread 3.5, present cost 3.5 – 3.75 + 2.75 = 2.5 History + 68.8 9/4/08 I will quell for the moment the...
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    Conservative Options Strategy

    The topic of getting good fills is interesting. Trying to get good fills by legging in is really tough and will not work for a sizable account. It is risky and you never know how the fills will work out. By bidding on the whole spread you know exactly where you stand. The InteractiveBrokers...
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    Yes. the expected gross profit is (5.0-3.45) * 500 shares = 775. You are also correct about limited loss/limited gain. Max loss is 5 spreads X 345 cost per spread = 1725. If the stock is 80.01 or more, I make max profit. Gain = 775/1725 = 44.9%. Thanks for your interest.
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    Yes, you are correct. Should be 5 FCX FEB09 55/60 @ 3.85. Thanks.
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    9/2/08 Activity: BUY: 100 SLV @ 12.60 (long) BUY: 5 DVN APR 75/80 @ 3.45 Stock @ 95.90, comm. 7, expected gross profit = 775 BUY: 5 FCX APR 55/60 @ 3.85 Stock @ 83.03, comm. 7, expected gross profit = 575 BUY: 5 EOG APR 65/70 @ 3.85 Stock @ 96.41, comm. 7...
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    Conservative Options Strategy

    PROPOSITION: There is no reason to (permanently) lose money on a DITM vertical spread position that is no longer DITM due to declining stock price, under the following conditions: CONDITION 1: There is sufficient time value remaining in the spread. CONDITION 2: There is the expectation...
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    8/25/08 Activity: SOLD: 4 MLM OCT 750 @ 4.9 NET PROFIT 348.8 SOLD: 5 EGH JAN 110/115 @ 3.15 NET LOSS 309.9 (on low expectations for EEM) BUY: 100 SLV (long) @ 13.22 SOLD: 10 WFT 32.5/35 @ 1.58 NET LOSS 134 (stock @ 38.06, near breakeven, got better uses for the...
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    Friday’s Activity: My previous post showed a sale of 6 SU SEP 35/37.5, but I did not have the information at hand to calculate profit. This was originally 3 SU SEPT 70/75 that split 2 for 1. My cost was $4 for the spread, so the split spreads cost $2.0 each and sold for 2.45. Gross...
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    8/19/08 Activities: SOLD: 5 FWLT JAN 50/52.5 @ .85 NET LOSS 614 SOLD: 5 MDR NOV 40/45 @ .87 NET LOSS 1454 (the severity of this particular loss was unique to this stock’s price action. Kind of unforeseeable.) BUY 200 SLV (long) @ 13.08 *****...
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    Conservative Options Strategy

    Aug 18 Activity: Finally did some trades today, and was forced to take some losses. Tough market! SOLD: 5 SII OCT 60/65 @ 3.45 NET LOSS 289 BUY: 4 ECA APR 50/55 @ 3.6 EXPECTED GROSS PROFIT 560 SOLD: 8 VIP OCT 20/22.5 @ 1.65 NET LOSS 147 SOLD: 5 X...
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