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    What price religion?

    When they were walking with no clothes on, they told the officer theyre doing this because God told them to. Sounds very much like a RELIGIOUSLY MOTIVATED crazy to me.
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    What price religion?

    This is just outrageous! 21st Century America folks! Attempts to 'undemonize' girl killed her ATLANTA -- A 6-year-old girl found dead in a motel room had been strangled, stabbed, beaten and covered in pages torn from a Bible, possibly in an attempt to ''undemonize'' her, police said...
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    What price religion?

    Er, how about, "I don't know"? I don't know whether life "spontaneously" arose from the interaction of mindless, random forces or whether it was purposely created. We do have OODLES of evidence for believing it EVOLVED UNINTELLIGENTLY after it arose, though. If I was going to guess either...
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    What price religion?

    Um, try reading the bible some time. Or just ask your priest. Or any Christian. Come on Jem, it is well established christian doctrine that FAITH (in jesus/god) is essential for salvation. Those who aren't saved get to burn in hell. It is a SIN not to believe in god, or to "reject"...
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    What price religion?

    1. The universe explodes from a singularity looking just as you would expect if there was a Creator. Oh, yes, that's the first thing I would expect. :rolleyes: What is it about this universe that makes it "look like" there was creator? I can honestly not think of one thing. How can...
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    What price religion?

    No, it's not only true if there's no god. It's true even if we can't tell, for sure, there is a god or not, as seems to be the case right now. _Given_ that we can't tell, for sure, there is a god, then as long as it's more rational to believe there isn't, then the only reason I can think of...
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    What price religion?

    There's no need for faith at all. Let me deal with those "points" you make. The "christian" west is at the forefront of science largely because it has stopped being so christian! (D you realize how few scientists are christians??) If you review history from the enlightenment forward...
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    What price religion?

    What price religion? I ask what price science... How much do we have to pay for it Danny Boy? I'm all for science, but when an enitire race is so consumed with material growth that everything else is forgotten -- in the end is it worth it? We can send 4 men to walk on the moon, but most men...
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    What price religion?

    I think it's much more accurate to say that inalienable rights were born _in spite_ of existing religious practices. Afterall, we have thousands of years of history to prove that no religion had ever been built on a foundation of human rights. It's interesting, don't you think, that while...
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    What price religion?

    You might also want to wonder why it hasn't in regions that do. Like, er, you might have heard of the "Middle East"? Or, um, India? Or Africa. Or South East Asia. Or... get it? In any case, wonder no longer. Just answer: are you, or are you not, able to comprehend that the concept...
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    What price religion?

    Still, let's give Jem an opportunity to respond. Jem, I just had a flick through my King James but I'm having a bit of trouble finding any reference to "inalienable rights". In fact, I keep bumping into a smattering of _restrictions_ on my freedom, but I'm sure it's in there somewhere. Be a...
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    EU poll: Israel 'biggest threat' to world peace

    Oh, right, the Balkans aren't in eastern europe anymore? When did that happen? Did you check out the context of my original reference to eastern europe before wading in to set us all straight? Dickhead.
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    EU poll: Israel 'biggest threat' to world peace

    Precisely, dickhead. That is why I questioned whether eastern europe was being included in the "Europe" under discussion.
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    What price religion?

    Religious beliefs are holding back progress in the most important aspects of life. While there are certain benefits attached to religious belief, they are soundly outweighed by the costs of holding them. Scientific advancement is required if we are to sustain the rate at which our quality of...
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    EU poll: Israel 'biggest threat' to world peace

    United??? Ever been to the Balkans dude?
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    EU poll: Israel 'biggest threat' to world peace

    It does, geographically. However, attitudes, values and beliefs are, at least in my experience, different here than in western europe.
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    EU poll: Israel 'biggest threat' to world peace

    By the way, that poll just goes to show what kind of whack jobs exist in Europe. (I'm European myself, if Eastern Europe counts as European). Just goes to show the US was 100% correct in ignoring the insane opinions of the Euros when it came to Iraq. These people appear wholly incapable of...
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    EU poll: Israel 'biggest threat' to world peace

    Well, there's a reason generalities become generalities: because they are generally true. The vast majority of muslims -- certainly every single one I have ever known; and they number in the dozens and I've known them on a close, personal level -- are most certainly anti-semitic; in the sense...
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    $5,000 entry with training Plus, Plus

    Dustin has been posting here since 1999, has a lot of respect from the 'respected' and long time members of ET and is believed to be quite a profitable trader. (Who would keep up an act for 5 years, anyway?) Don, on the other hand, from the first day he posted, has NEVER enjoyed that level...
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    Rove sticks it to 'em again

    Gee, gosh, wow. The Democrats really said that? I'm gobsmacked!
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