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No one who has spent time studying Islamic scripture would try and pretend it's as vague as and as open to interpretation as the Bible.

How would you know that I don't? I know it's hard for you, but do try and grow up.

Well Christ, Zzz, as if you do!

Well that's just beautiful. Now, how to convince radical Muslims to see it your way?

So how would you go about convincing fanatics of that? A rather tall order, wouldn't you say, especially when you consider that Islamic legal scholarship has for centuries exercised a literal interpretation? Wouldn't it, in that case, be fair to blame the text, at least a teeny-weeny bit?

In general terms, no, such politicizing need not necessarily have anything to do with texts or wishes of authors. In the case of Islam, some commands are written in such plain language that it would require 'politicizing' (of the most extreme kind) to give them a meaning concordant with 21st...

Even the plainest of language can have varying interpretations, especially in the hands of social reformers.

How you can claim that after everything we just discussed betrays your fanatical devotion to your views, not to reason. There is no reason for a black to feel 'denigrated' by choosing to associate with Europeans any more than I feel 'denigrated' by blacks choosing to asscociate with other...

Of course I spotted it. It's just that I'm not some crusader against 'racist stereotypes'. It is a true statement that blacks have lower IQs than whites, so I see little to rail against.

Very well, pardon my interjection then. Carry on. I'll simply add that the 'educational benefit' that private schools provide is allowing whites and asians to avoid being thrown into classrooms with largely uneducable blacks and hispanics.

Do you agree, though, that my 'racist bigoted thinking' in no way requires denigrating anybody? This quite interesting. I have for quite a while thought liberals' views would corner them into stating this. In this view, 99.9% of all females qualify as 'bigots'. A sentiment fascinating...

Well there is presicely such a correlation. Sure, it's 'racist', but that makes it no less true.

I accept that he 'tolerated' Judaism and Christianity. Zoroastrianism, too. The principle was that these groups had a written scriptures and worshipped the one God. Thus they are known as "People of the Book". The fate to be meted out to pagans and polytheists is far harsher. This...

My point about the constitution was that activist judges have totally disregarded the plain meaning of the text. So much for your "logic".

Parenting is very important, I agree. Unfortunately, it does still come down to a person's inherent potential, too. dddooo will have a fit when he sees me introducing this point into yet another thread, but damn it, doo, it's important: Poor white children routinely outperform black...

That's largely how I feel about blacks and Muslims. So we agree then. Then it's possible for 'bigots' to be fair and just, is all that is saying. Okay, so what? I literally don't have time to be friends with everyone, so I require time saving tactics. Come on man, this is plain common...

Public, private, blah blah blah. The quality of the 'school' (what, buildings? textbooks? teachers?) isnt' remotely as important as the quality of the students. Some kids are essentially unteachable. It would take a superhuman effort - such that not one in a thousand teachers could muster...

Activist justices have proven, quite conclusively, that the Constitution can say anything you want it to.

Okay, bro, if you were sincerely offended, then I apologize. I can't deny I find myself (and the truth, as I see it) seriously at odds with what you claim, and in that sense I suppose I was overzealous in cutting you down. But believe me, a 'flame-war' is the last thing I had on my mind. (And...

I sincerely consider that a touching sentiment. But logically, the latter simply doesn't necessarily follow from the former. In specific terms, loving 'all of its citizens equally' translates to the blindness of the law and, essentially, nothing more than that (that I can think of). How on...