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HHI (HHI.HK at IB) might be the way to trade China after doing a little looking around. It's in HKD (HKD 50/point) so it wouldn't be available for IRA type accts. I would like to hear if there are other vehicles out there. Any leveraged bear china funds? specs for HHI...

I noticed CX (CYX on IB) H05 contract doesn't trade much at all and currently quoted 294.10 bid at 296.80 offer...yikes! can drive a truck thru that bid/offer spread. It is comparable to a 130 point spread on HSI futures...or a 100 point spread on the dow futures...CX is not for me. Any...

Thanks. I've also added CX (on IB, symbol is CYX) future and those stocks to my quote list. Yes, this could be a good option for those accts which can only trade USD-denominated. Anyone have experience trading these? Any comments on liquidity/bid-offer spread...

yeah.. looks FXI (FTSE/Xinhua China 25 Index Fund) is also an option...I am assuming you can long and short this ETF...

I saw HHI.HK is available at IB. I've added it to my quote list and will monitor it. This should be more direct for China than HSI. Thanks.

What's the best way to play a downturn/recession of the Chinese economy? Is there a tradable insrument available to people living outside of China? I would think the HangSeng (HSI Futures @ HKFE) would be correlated...is there any other direct way?

Another ratio trade is S&P500/Gold -- how many S&P500 to buy 1 ounce of Gold. According to a chart I saw, this ratio at the height (1980's I think) reached about 4 and made a multi-decade low few years ago and has been climbing. At less than 0.5 ratio (still close to bottom), Gold is still...

I'm new to this thread and ET -- Congrats to all those who contribute to this thread, making it a worthy Forex discussion forum.

How can one play a downturn in US Real Estate prices if and when that occurs?

Thanks. I thought it was high leverage given the intraday swings I had just last week during the short durations I had my positions. I plan to cut it in at least half. I was a bit surprised that a firm would even offer a 400 leverage. Sure sounds better than a casino... if you just can time...

Hi Cutten, I remember you from the silver discussions...hope you are doing well. Any view on the preciuos (gold ,silver) ?

thanks for your input. The USD Index ($DXY) has made major bottoms around the 80 level 3 times in the 90's ... seems it will be a major support again...you think it'll break that?...I think even if it breaks, it won't be there for too long before a huge rally in the dollar .. .

While we are on the subject of leverage...could I ask traders here what leverage(s) they use -- let's say in the USDEUR? I am kinda new to FX -- started last week with leverage of about 54 -- too much? too little? I calculated leverage as (I trade the futures- Euro 125K each): (# of...

Thanks I'll check it out.

Thanks Digs, I'm not a Gold expert but wouldn't Gold normally go up if there are inflation worries? Also just looked at a report from the above site (dated Sept) that Gold will make new highs... I also have read another research report in Gold which says the recent rally is a bear mkt rally...

Thanks. I'll check it out.

As the year 2004 is coming to an end (time sure moves fast when you are having fun!), I thought to start a discussion on finding emerging trends in the various markets. I think this is no easy task but thought a collective discussion might benefit us all. I remember, for example, at the end...

Gringinho, Thanks. Very true...one of the reasons I hate leaving stop orders too close specially during slow inactive mkt times. I've also heard in the FX spot mkt frequently firms (MMs) scare off the retail (little) traders into bailing their positions...I would expect (hope?) at least in...

Through what do you see all this to try to decode MM action in the EUR futures...? I trade through IB TWS and all I can see is the mkt depth window...couldn't tell MM or not except to guess by size...some insight would be appreciated..

Are you talking about formulae for slow/fast/full stochastics oscillators in general? I have seen them in many books etc. ..may be the follwing link might get you started... http://stockcharts.com/education/IndicatorAnalysis/indic_stochasticOscillator.html