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On 54 you have a BO T1 and P1 assigned. Why do you have a P1 on 55 rather than a T1 ? Many thx

Thought: even though we assigned a P2 to 70, in order to get the PP2, when it then comes to testing the upper OB level, are we in effect testing 70 in relation to a T1 (69) ? If so, P1 is killed after a T1 ? So Jack assigned P2 for upper OB ? TI is killed after P2 so he assigned P1 for lower...

It's the order then that I'm not getting.. first we assign P2 to 70 and the EE PP2 on 70 ? (Long on 70) PPx = assign P1 to next measurable bar... 70 is an OB, so is top level the next measurable bar ? if so assign P1 to top level of 70 ? bottom level is T1 P1/T1 is a PP4 EE (Short on 70) P1...

Squished 78. Corrected 75 (Ba) BM PP2'd 70 I'll need to create my own "kill"..."do not post after 3am GMT..." thx: Edited http://screencast.com/t/DfxjGhzA9QPJ

I must be tired...apologies. One last try. If I've dealt with 78 correctly, would 79 be a T2F ? thx for your patience and feedback http://screencast.com/t/OGCcpkX3cB

Thx... 57 - 81 (?) http://screencast.com/t/n7fhYYNK

60 to 81 (?) http://screencast.com/t/vG0JypxzyVB

Yes I missed that thank you. On chart refresh it's a W. Thx Ok thx, but confusing because wouldn't b39 be a "New P1" re: Rev Chron"left most" ? ie: P2 (37) > P1(35) and with 39 HVBO of A Band although < P2 , 39 is > P1 (35) so 39 = New P1 ? Will do. Thx for everything.

Lets see how far off I am with this (?) 13 to 40 EDIT: http://screencast.com/t/xdwnC1ITFmc

Yes the fanning after translating bars may be a further distinction: Meaning if an rtl has originated from translation bars then we do not fan around internals that come after the translating bars (?) Here an example from Jacks chart 9.30.2013: I appreciate the PP1 EE might be the reason for not...

Yes I see your point and agree. Well spotted, thx. The Jack chart was probably not a good example, apologies. (I find it very difficult to unravel the non no gaped charts). So "6" can a least be up for review as and when (?) thx

Thought I'd do a summary of what's kindly and generously been explained so far re RTL's: 1. Start rtl's from EE bar regardless of which type of EE. 2. Start BM from EE bar regardless of which type of EE. 3. If BM is pierced on 2nd bar, then cannot, and do not, draw rtl 4. If cannot draw an rtl...

Ag; "Add Req" Bar.0 is New P1. To be a New P1 wouldn't 34 need to be higher than 33 ? Edit: no I think you're correct with Ag: 34 would be New P1 via Rev Chron ?

Lets see how far off this is... Bars 28 to 43. http://screencast.com/t/yKiQK9t2KvgE Edit: Bar 43 OB http://screencast.com/t/1hGfOGKO

I think it is as you were with 28 = P1 ?

Should B28 be a "W" rather than a P1 ? thx Edit: sorry. No the 27 "SQ" would make 28 measurable..

Having seen your posted no gap chart using Sierra, I noticed that my NT no gap chart isn't always printing the no gaped bar's highs to lows correctly. Hence I didn't have a "W" on bar 27 but a P1. and going forward from there, this led me to an Ab on bar. many thx

B32: Ab ? thx

I am understanding Jacks quote to mean; a BO T1 is only a BO T1 if we either: 1) have already had a T1 and then we have a BO of an rtl and /or 2) if without previously having had a T1 yet, we BO an rtl with dec vol. (the dec vol being the T1). Is this what Jacks quote is saying ? If...

thanks for your posts. Eckhart Tolle - Life is Now http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wveedNzcdS8&feature=watch-vrec