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No, you're just wrong. Is it that hard to admit? Standard 401(k) account holders can't trade futures or options.

Uh, where can Joe Blow employee trade futures/options in his company's 401(k)? If that's happening, I'm sure not aware of it. If you're talking about self-directed IRAs/401(k)s, that's a whole different category. The average clueless investor knows nothing about them. They're used by more...

Exactly. If someone doesn't understand that, they shouldn't be trading.

I was agreeing with you. My post was referring to the same guy you replied to (who believes the economy is strong and growing).

Right. And it's difficult for the free market to work things out when there's so much gov't intervention and inefficiency in health care, energy, food production, etc. Of course, these are the true staple items that people need, too. The price of smart phones going down doesn't help much when...

Sounds like a rookie mistake of confusing the stock market with the economy...or someone who drinks the Kool Aid of focusing on certain cherry-picked, manipulated economic data.

No idea, but China has a lot of issues...including a runaway bull market that was fueled by debt.

This usually doesn't work...even if you take a terrible, 100% mechanical system and reverse the rules. At best, you usually end up with break-even results in the long-term.

But as stated earlier, practically no known patterns show an edge...

Nice ad hominem. How old are you? 12? I don't need to figure out how much money wrb or you are losing...just post proof. Take your name, account #, etc. of your brokerage statements for the last 3 years and put them up. We'll all be in awe...or not.

Here's what typically happens when you objectively test a "pure price action" pattern: http://www.priceactionlab.com/Blog/2015/07/double-inside-day/ And I realize the irony...the blog is called "priceactionlab.com." However, it has nothing to do with the stuff DB, et. al. do--except to...

Are you in the Van Tharp camp that says you can be profitable with random entries...as long as you manage your trades and money correctly?

None of that proves a statistical edge.

Heh, he's not even that. He's an innumerate shill who fits the very definition of "fooled by randomness." GiantHog: please go slither back into whatever hole you crawled out from.

That's enough. You're either clueless or a troll. You couldn't produce what I asked for, so the conversation is over. You can have your childish last word if you want. Now go off and learn from your price action trading fairies...maybe a few of them will win short-term trading contests and...

Two-time Salon champ http://www.becomeabettertrader.com/tradingchamp/ Not-so-great a trader. Shows that such contests don't prove long-term sustainability http://www.elitetrader.com/et/index.php?threads/did-robert-hoffman-really-lose-312k-in-a-single-tf-trade-yikes.223845/ I'm still waiting...

So far, you've done nothing but perpetuate the myth. If I go to Salon, it will only be to see Robert "$312K" Hoffman.

Show me an audited track record of at least 3 years and then we'll talk. ForexFactory is full of these would-be gurus, and none have ever proved anything...except an uncanny ability to fool new traders.

DB is a fraud in all ways: trading, politics, et. al. As for the "pure price action" traders in general, they talk a big game that sounds good to newbies...or post-newbies who have been burned by bad vendors, systems, traditional indicators, etc. However, I've never seen one post substantial...

He should get the Madoff treatment. He probably would without his political connections. And now Eric Holder is back at his old law firm where Corzine was a client...talk about full circle corruption!