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why? does it also include oil? hurricane ike might become a cat 4 by friday and todays forecast only 48-72 hours out has it hitting refinery lane

this is ridiculous i know more than 2$ of profit on TSO disappeared in two days... still gonna hold onto this something is wrong here.

tht was a joke lmao

why would such a prestigious investment bank with such a long and rich history go under, you guys are crazy...

didn't bear collapse happen when stock price was in double digits??

maybe soros should call up a few of his billionaire friends and just buy lehman lmao

I have been long Tesoro (TSO) from 15 it had a nice run to 19.50 and sold off like everything else today to 17.26, ALL of their refineries are located on the west coast, one one or two in alaska and one in hawaii and the crack spreads are higher on the west coast then the gulf crack as per their...

another thing i've noticed is the vast majority of people are EXPECTING this "capitulation one day sell off and everything be fine after day" and i don't think it will happen this time around, we either grind downwards painfully or we rally for no reason (and then maybe crash)

they will report a smaller than anticipated write down... and they will rally lmao

not exactly shortest, we've been in a bear market for a year now basically, another 6 months and i think we will be out, stocks should head up by end of 2008 beginning of 2009 THEY MAY make new lows before that i have no idea. frankly my portfolio has taken a haircut what can i do.. lol

market is going to go up way before any good "fundamentals" start showing up, it is going to go up when everyone least expects it to. I think a 12% spike in ^vix says something, as well as spiking 12ish% only a few days prior.

http://www.bloomberg.com/avp/avp.htm?N=av&T=Paulson%20Says%20Fannie%2C%20Freddie%20Plan%20Puts%20Taxpayers%20First&clipSRC=mms://media2.bloomberg.com/cache/vRLQPM46Dlow.asf interesting "any threats from any investors"... "NO NOBODY does THAT"

the decision is up to you for all i know the stock could open under a dollar... on a side note maybe your account does not let you do premarket but maybe you can call your brokers trading desk at 8am or 7:59am and have them sell the shares for you in premarket.

they will be happy people and are currently probably on yahoo message boards making fun of all the "piss ant long baggie holders" of fnm and fre

it is the fact that the US national debt has practically doubled over night as the 5.4 trillion in MBS gets backed by the treasury. decreasing our "credit score" if you will

you'd be like this guy in a matter of seconds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk3hmifWLhE all thanks to the goo old government

wow lucky you are gonna be very rich

wawaweewa 1271!!!

the "BS" bid and ask are starting to move up for some reason!!! 1251 as we speak!!! edit now 1257.00 euro hit 1.44 and looks like its either pulling back or selling off

ye thats what i was thinking, althouhg i have never watched the ES on a sunday night but tonight is just too good to pass up. Euro going up strong 1.4388 so far maybe 1.45- 1.46 by tmrw at this pace