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try a 1 min advanced chart with symbol (ym #f - $INDU - 68) - be careful with the spaces....

What is the offset for this morning?

I am sure that the present guidelines suggest entry at the FTT for the tree level or at the pt 3 for the forest level. Entry during the RTL BO is kind of in between the two and one might anticipate taking some "heat" during the retrace. I also think that it important to be able to recognise when...

I think that it is important to consider context. Did the first long black bar follow an right trend line BO from a short channel? If so, then the subesquent retrace to form the pt 3 could be anticipated. If we were already in an established long channel then the pt3 as shown is an FBO following...

ES 30 Mar 07 Hmmmm...

ES 29 Mar 07 Got lost around 12:15 and caught up in the "leaves" a few times. The pt 3 between 14:55 and 15:10 took a couple of shots but I was determined not to let it escape. A positive day.

so far...

Thanks. Found it. p299 :)

This may be obvious to many so please bear with me. I have pondered on why I tend to miss many pt 3's and I have come to the following conclusion. When a pt3 occurs outside the previous channel we have the benefit of having seen (a) the FTT, (b) the RTL BO, (c) the r2r or b2b volume thrust...

Ivo, it also ties in nicely with the ym gaussians :)

see attached chart. 15:00 was break of RTL. 15:22 was volatility expansion.

ES 28 Mar 07 Struggled with getting oriented during the morning, courtesy of Bernie. The pt 3's look so obvious with hindsight but only managed to catch one of them. Too much deliberation perhaps. By the time I recognise them I am way too late.

ES 27 Mar 07

ES 26 Mar 07

ES 23 Mar 07 5 trades, -1.75

ES so far. Finding it very difficult to anticipate pt3's in a timely manner.

ES 20 Mar 07

so far...

I tend to wait for 3 bars as shown in the attached clip but I can see that I need to get out of this habit :)

Yes, in terms of seeing the advanced warning FTT. I then wait for what I perceive as a pt3 on ES and I tend to wait for two tapes on the ES to give me a pt 3 channel. Unless 3 bars give me two tapes I tend to miss the faster pt 3.