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seems your on yr own now jimmy... nice knowing u...

methinks baron is a patient man...

yeah sure i keep bumping into people that raise that sort of money :-)))) now seriously u shld read it, thats oscar material!

life's unfair mate...

got a better 1, almost died reading it and i'm only half-way thru....

thanks, i'll have a look also found this http://www.gfigroup.com/portal/index.jsp?pageID=def_broker_ird but wldn't be surprised if i get the same response as i got from icap... i.e. they only deal with institutions...

milbank apparently... think yr best bet is to approach the creditors' committee: http://sg.biz.yahoo.com/051028/3/3w1lh.html good luck

perhaps thats one of the reasons they come to this board, apex... because they know there r loads of kind people like you who wldn't just give everybody abuse and wld be willing to share factual information of substance... thks so much...

Def, that we do know, nothing new here, and also that every competitor wld immediately "express an interest" if only to get privy to as much inside info as they can, but now tell me: how scientific was/is IB's process in assessing refco's business value if in the space of 3 weeks, u end up...

:-))) dude, maybe like Def there is sthg u know that we don't know... me, i am just looking at the facts... IB didn't have access to any more doc when it placed its bid the other week than it had had when flowers did... if flowers hadn't placed its bid, giving weight to the idea that there was...

hi, i am looking for a platform to trade non-US$ IR swaps, swaptions, on a 'retail' basis (in lots of $100,000 equivalent notional value). can s.o. help? many thanks

it doesn't matter 'what it was like then'... fact is flowers, who is a pretty credible guy when it comes to turning around failed businesses, made a bid 'then' and Def can say what he wants, IB etc didn't have what it takes to act within the same timeframe... instead they were running full-page...

thanks - much appreciated! (i wonder how u can put up with all that stuff sometimes...) back to the topic, agree with mind/man we have a major crisis: http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/05_45/b3958095.htm (a bit longish, sorry) http://www.startribune.com/stories/1069/5694012.html...

its true there has been some manipulation of post contents 'ex-post' in that other thread and thats rather disturbing... baron sir, care to chip in and throw a bucket of ice cold water on all this, and on this whole dispute in particular, that'd be nice!

whats yr point mate, shld 'mind' be shot or what, for having a different opinion? who do u use for yr futures trading, i assume they must have a pristine record, right? who wld U recommend / advise against i wld be interested to know actually, or perhaps if u cld let us have a bullet-point due...

looking at the 100odd threads around refco & the account security issues, it'd be nice to know how oanda has structured this 'legal' protection in case they themselves go bankrupt... to take an example, this is what i found on IB's website this week...

yes but cld we not take things too personal tho', and avoid language that is most likely to cause other people to take things personal plse... otherwise this is just going to go the way of the previous thred(s) on the subject, which i am sure is not what u want, right mate?

agree. now one thing, we're all talking here, giving views etc and its all very well and 'entertaining' to an extent, but are any of us grilling our current brokers for better disclosure, asset protection schemes etc - e.g. am not an IB rep, shill or what have u but i've just found out about...

kinda correct it seems: http://www.sec.gov/rules/proposed/s71701/sexton1.htm#P122_25856 One of NFA's first actions after it began operations on October 1, 1982 was to take a Member Responsibility Action to suspend an FCM that had used most of its customer funds for its own purposes.15 Since...

yes & yes & probably happened to a couple 100/1,000? people on this site, and 10,000s out there, welcome on board :-) suggestions, let me try to summarize what i've learnt after 6 mths on ET: - simplest and safest seems to be: forget spot fx and trade exchange-traded cme efx / eurexus fx...