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OESX Box is the one that I sold. OESX is an option on ESTX50. You would want the net balance between 0 and Euro50k if you trade at IBKR to avoid paying any interest expense. Where do you trade your box? Other brokers may not have the same conditions like IBKR. Move your account to Interactive...

It looks like selling a bigger amount ESTX50 box will save more on the margin capacity of an account. ie Big box is not linearly bigger in terms of margin requirement compared to a small box. Is this a correct assumption?

It looks like selling a bigger amount ESTX50 box will save more on the margin capacity of an account. ie Big box is not linearly bigger in terms of margin requirement compared to a small box. Is this a correct assumption?

Take it as a leaning process. Your €5,000.- will be credited back in the account when the box ends in Nov. Meanwhile please check if your securities account accrues interest expense if you don’t have Euro to begin with?

automatically settled by IBKR. can you share here at what price you achieved the trade at for which maturity and what amount?

My Euro securities account does not accrued interest even though it is negative. I will wait for a month to see if I really get charged with Euro interest. I have compared my account with my wife's which happens to have negative Euro balance since it has not been granted for Euro box trades. My...

the link on calculation is a bit difficult to understand but here is the respond from a knowledgeable customer service.

I am using ESTX50 Index options but the proceed from the box was credited into my futures account.

Finally I've got the courage to trade Euro box on my own account. The Euro created from selling a box was credited into my F account (IB-UKL) account while my cash securities account remained negative. They will net off each other and if they are of the same amount will not generate interest...

I just sold 1-year ESTX50 Box at a rate of minus 0.49%pa just now (for Euro10k loan I was paid Euro49). I can't wait to see the cash report tomorrow to see exactly on the account. Sold another 1 year Box and got paid Euro50.

Has anyone successfully sell ESTX50 Box? I try to sell 1 contract and on my offering has never been shown on the Bid and Ask on IBKR, even though my offer is much better than the existing Ask (i.e. much lower). I wonder why?

Hi Sig, thank you for your respond. This ESTX50 Box Spread uses Futures Options. Does it mean that the loan proceeds is credited into futures account instead of into the regular type 3 account for stocks? I don't trade futures. if this is so, then this Euro loan is of no use to me. Am I correct...

I assume incompetence from ibkr part? the people who programmed IB robot? I have been perusing IBKR margin requirement and to be honest I don't quite comprehend them well. It depends on a person's residency, type of instruments, percentages of holding, even each exchange has different set of...

I am just trying to make ends meet. You seem to have a tidy account yourself :). Mind sharing how you come up with that 8-figure account perhaps in another thread? I am thankful to the people who spend time to educate new comers like me so I have been diligently googling key words and try to...

another story on liquidation of $500k Box spread for short of $2k intraday shortage, with respond from an IB rep pointing to Box spread's inherent interest rate risk. I assume in a declining interest rate environment...

IBKR Margin requirement for shorting the box <MAX (1.02 x cost to close, Long Call Strike - Short Call Strike)>. Cost to close = Amount of the loan? https://www.interactivebrokers.com/en/index.php?f=26660 Anyone ever tried selling ESTX50 Box? I borrowed Euro3,000. on a demo account and got...

It turned out that particular trader had margin problem, such a long winding thread https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/put-options-liquidated-at-worst-possible-prices.198144/page-30

i hate schwab since it cheated on my corp bond trades. I never go back to a cheating broker. their free trades are not really free.

Thanks for sharing your past experience. It is indeed quite dangerous to trade options with IBKR. An Algo is indeed just a computer program and it only executes according to the programmers view. There are some events that may have never been in the minds of the programmers when they create it...

Excuse me for resurrecting this thread. It is important to set your box to be liquidated last in your setting in addition to setting up your account to be portfolio margin, (though this is not guaranteed by IB). There was a large swing glitch in the market that could cause one of the box' legs...