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ANyone know where I can get a free intraday chart of the dollar index.. it could be delayed

Screw CNBC.. just put it on bloomberg.

Excellent explanation. I agree the no touch strong hedge is not similar to a true vanilla short straddle by any means... there are many differences as you noted very well.. Where I was getting at with our discussion.. is trying to find the types of exotic trading strategies that the pros...

Well the problem with being short straddle in vanilla is the open ended risk if market runs away.. the short synthetic straddle via exotics takes care of the runaway part and makes the straddle a fixed bet .. I dont see how I can setup a long straddle in exotics? Can it be done somehow?

This does not make sense to me.. let me give u a real example i priced out at Betonmarkets again... Assuming gold is at 486. At 478 i can get a one touch expiring on Nov28.. ( 8 calender days)... for premium $1000 and payoff $2000 .. basically a 1:1. At the same time i buy spot gold as I buy...

Is there a way to hedge a touch trade from the onset.. how can it be made into a synthetic?

Riskarb,, it looks like u do a lot of synthetic straddles with otm not touch... do u ever trade the otm touches.. and how can u go about setting up a synthetic for a touch bet? Also what type of strategies are there for digital options.. the ones that bet either up or down over a certain...

In reference to this trade you did a while ago... the win/loss was .60 ($248600/$151400) . Which is a .6 : 1 reward to risk.. I thought u never strive for less than 1:1. Does it really matter? because it seems that the risk to reward is kinda irrelevant because the obviously the pricing...

This makes sense.. so basically when u have no touch OTM put u are basically bearish because the true play will be on the convergence of trying to get the full payout of both hedge and exotic option.. and u can hedge strong and try to make a profit if the market breaks through the no touch and...

Riskarb, is there a similar edge to the otc banks when they price and package these to u? Should the no touch relative to the touch... have similar payout odds to the bank?

So lets take a real example that i have priced via Betonmarkets.com for Gold. Spot gold is now at 486.. and I can do a no touch Nov. 28 (9 calender days) at 480. The risk to reward is exactly 1:1. So on a payout of $100,000 the bet costs $50,000. Now lets assume I take this trade and I...

The example i competely made up.. the numbers themselves are kinda irrelevant... i was questioning the logic behind the trade.. --MIKE

So what u are saying is that the scenerio is not realistic because in order to get the 1:1 risk to reward the market has to trade in way where it is very likely to hit 80 and 120? If i am wrong.. can you please explain is simpler terms.. lol

Here is a question. Assuming the spot price of EURO is 100. Now we enter a no touch trade.. where Euro cant trade under 80 in the next 7 days. Assuming the risk to reward is 1:1.. so we make $100 if right and lose $100 if wrong. Now at the same time we short spot Euro so that each 1 point is...

You mean the http://www.refcospot.com/? I am also testing out betonmarkets.com

Can u be more specific and give me an example relating to trade i posted?

I mean is there any way to play the other side of the trade.. and make money assuming the original trade betting the euro will be higher is wrong.. the point would be do mitigate taking the full loss. --MIKE

Firstly I am newbie in trading exotics.. so please feel to help... Assuming I were to place a one touch bet.. where the Eur/USD needs to trade above 1.1870 within 7 days expiring Nov 25. Now the lets assume the reward to risk is .80 : 1... so for every dollar I lose I make 80 cents. Lets...

That doesnt even compare... betonmarkets.. gives u access to trade exotic options similar to OTC style.. of course the OTC market is priced more attractice.. but obviusly everything is against the retail guy.

Anyone that uses them.. please PM me.. i have a many questions about their trading.... www.betonmarkets.com --MIKE