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Okay Jimmy. Surely you can see that we are at least relatively on the same side of the argument here. But you have to acknowledge that what you are talking about is still just semantics. Dealing with the present price action, as we do, is making an indefinite prediction. When I get a signal...

kiwi- pardon my terminology, what i mean by "level" is resolution according to spyder's ruleset, which varies from level-to-level based on how much detail is accounted for and on what time span it occurs. essentially what i am saying is that if two people are supposed to be operating on the...

Well put... like I said this is all just semantics, and whether you call it prediction, anticipation, or whatever is going to depend on how you came up with your decision in the first place and what kind of mindset you have. But it is all the same in the end, so who cares?

Here's one... Try to pick out at least 3 bars on which a forest-level FTT occurs. If you need to, use the blank space to draw the channels. <img src="http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=1401202">

Very niiice.... Great success!

I for one find kiwi's post to be interesting, Though it doesn't necessarily apply to "making money." But after one train's their mind to see a certain thing, I don't think dissonance is as big of a problem. An illustration of your point might be that while on the basic, forest level of trading...

here's what i mean by in synch...

Your gaussians don't seem to be in synch with any of the price action in your channels.

Lack of continuation, as you have described, is also called CHANGE. The event of the mother's death is also an event of CHANGE. This event of change, as I see it causes no "interesting distortion" unless the call you got about your mother's death was a prank call. Lucky for us, the market...

Jimmy just made a really great analogy. The cycle of his life is such that, on a regular basis, he wakes up, gets a cup of coffee, gets in his car, and drives to work on a typical weekday. He knows that this cycle of events is going to CONTINUE to happen until he gets a signal for CHANGE. As...

Mephisto and Spyder-- nice work. You just cleared up the single biggest issue that beginners have when learning gaussians. Of all the people I have talked to, the single largest problem people have when learning gaussians is that they don't make the connection between price and volume as...

What you say in that thread is of course true... But what I think a lot of people get stuck on is they see a "change" signal and don't know which fractal it applies to (forest, trees, leaves, etc). A misapplied change signal can surely make things feel a lot more like gambling than like...

Mephisto, While on the forest level FTTs are not supposed to be actionable, but if you choose to add them to your decision making progress might I suggest that you tighten your definition a little bit? For instance, while on the forest level I tend to only consider something an FTT if it...

Don't need to have the decreasing black followed by increasing black. FTTs don't always break out, sometimes they FBO. What he is saying essentially is that an FTT occurs at the top of a gaussian. There wasn't enough gas left to push it to the LTL before it began its retrace. That's all an...

Hypostomus, mind posting a chart so we can see what you are talking about? If this was so arbitrary a procedure I think you would have to agree that someone here, out of the many people that have posted charts for friday, would have also found the FTTs you mentioned. Alas, this is not the...

Cmon people, this is a legitimate question. If you have a lot of money and would like to be charitable with it, there are obvious benefits to "flying under the radar." Not everyone wants to be known for their money. Some people get pleasure from things other than fame!

My chart with "action zones" highlighted.

P1- I see what you are saying. The FTT is a part of the forest resolution IF there is a second FTT that forms a PT3 within the old channel. This is often accompanied by an X2X before the actual BO of the original forest channel, and this is indeed an action point in my mind. For example...

I think you misunderstood. In the forest trading rules, we HOLD through the nondominant retraces and our action points occur on RTLXO's and PT3's. FTTs and flaws do not enter this picture EVER, so whether or not I can identify forest FTTs blindfolded has absolutely nothing to do with anything...

Yes I have found this too in my strict forest simming... For much of the day I'm breakeven or in the red (on brief channels and low-slope channels), but since in the market all the time all the big moves are caught. Starts to actually feel like the "pool extraction" Jack talks about.