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    Materialists

    1. Why am I theist but you are an agnostic atheist? The way you pose the question seems to show that you are still not differentiating things correctly. But to answer it anyway: You are theist because you BELIEVE in god. I am an atheist because I DONT believe in god. I am an agnostic...
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    Materialists

    Well you're obviously a theist :D So the question becomes... do you claim possessing KNOWLEDGE of god. Im not sure if you do or not. Sometimes you seem to, and other times you dont. You see....when someone states they believe in god ON FAITH alone, then they are obviously an agnostic...
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    Materialists

    So Shoe, Do you claim to be a gnostic theist, or an agnostic theist? peace axeman
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    Materialists

    Shoe, Read the following. This guys explains the differences very well. Semantics aside.... using THESE particular definitions in the article, tell me if you see any problem: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Atheism vs. Agnosticism...
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    Materialists

    Im very disappointed in you Shoe. You have not been paying attention. The following statement is completely false: Axe is absolutely convinced that there is no God and that any opposing viewpoint is foolish Im a WEAK ATHEIST, or agnostic atheist, which means that I DO NOT assert there...
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    Materialists

    Better check the facts Doubter.... JEM started the attacking, not me. So pin the beginning of the mud slinging to JEM, and ask HIM why he started attacking other people. Further... who says this is on order to "build myself up"?? YOU? Give me a break. I suppose you think you can READ ME...
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    Driving a stick.

    He he he.... reminds me of my manual learning story. A friend of the family volunteered to teach me when I was about 17 years old. She was ULTRA hot. Super hottie. Anyway... she drove a VW bug. It took FOREVER for me to finally "Get it". :D :D :D Yeah...a really really really...
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    Materialists

    Your getting closer Shoe, but your still missing it. I am in no way converting agnosticism into atheism. It simply is not possible, they deal with different domains (knowledge and belief) and I myself am an agnostic atheist, also known as a weak atheist. You are forcing agnosticism and...
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    Materialists

    LMAOOOO - every time I read this, I just cant help but laugh. JEM fully supports my position and concedes the debate with this glaring admission. Now read JEMs silly quote very carefully: JEM:JEM your honor as to this issue. We are not seeking to admit this evidence as to the truth of...
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    Materialists

    I am agnostic and a-jesus, or simply dont believe in jesus (Similar to being an atheist) You need to learn to differentiate the two, they are not mutually exclusive. (a)Gnosticism deals with KNOWLEDGE. ATHEISM/BELIEF/DISBELIEF/A-jesus, obviously, deals with BELIEF. I have no KNOWLEDGE...
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    Materialists

    In fact.... many of the contemporary historians of the time even logged tiny trivial actions of very little known healers, and thieves, etc. Thousands of entries on every little thing that happened in town. Yet...no mention of Jesus....hmmmmmm..... Damir:"another case of neither proves nor...
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    Materialists

    Lets assume what you are saying is true.... that he was a smalltown teacher in a backwater nation. You have only provided an excuse as to WHY records dont exist. But that still leaves us in the SAME position. Its not RATIONAL to believe in him. This does NOT mean that he DOESNT exist...
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    Materialists

    Shoe, Even if we agree that "the authors truly believed what they wrote was true", you must agree that that does not make it TRUE. I can produce 1000 people who BELIEVE all kinds of weird shit is true, that ISNT. And I can PROVE that it isnt. This is why this historical jesus...
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    Materialists

    Shoe, Even if we agree that "the authors truly believed what they wrote was true", you must agree that that does not make it TRUE. I can produce 1000 people who BELIEVE all kinds of weird shit is true, that ISNT. And I can PROVE that it isnt. This is why this historical jesus...
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    Materialists

    LOL! Its terrible worthless research. JEM is now showing his utter desperation by falling back on Tacitus,Pliny the Younger,Suetonius , and friends. :p The reason the biblical scholars focus on Josephus so much is because Tacitus and friends have already been rejected and are...
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    Materialists

    LMAOOOOOOO nice fantasy JEM. Is this what you dream about after another attorney has completely destroyed you in court? Make you feel better JEM? Nice strawman by the way. Why dont you try addressing the issue im debating? Your a typical slimeball attorney. Dodging and weaving and...
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    Materialists

    If their numbers as a percentage of world population dropped, then yes, that would absolutely be a decline. If we use your faulty absolute numbers, then I can claim ALL GROUPS are experiencing explosive growth, because all groups numbers increase as the general population increases. But...
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    Materialists

    I already explained why absolute numbers are a useless measurement. I even gave you a simple frog/turtle analogy. But you are only proving you dont wish to learn. After I shred your argument to pieces, you simply repeat it a short time later. What is the point? You simply just dont...
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    Materialists

    You miss the point again. Simply put.... future projections are not capable of altering the past. In fact... your future projects are blatantly wrong and do not match up with history, which already proves that your assumption and therefore assertion is FALSE. Also... what you call...
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    Materialists

    I dont see the point of moving on to Myth #2, when Myth #1 was so crystal clear and supported by such strong OBJECTIVE numbers. Shoe didnt provide a single counter set of data, and STILL wont concede the point. The debate was not even close. It is therefore WORTHLESS debating with...
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