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Never a truer word was spoke.

Definitely not Shoe.

Not against you Shoe. Love the way you think. But I can't resist pointing out that those prolific ancient Greeks were believers too - in some pretty silly stuff when it came to religion. No question: you don't have to be an agnostic to be a seeker. I'll give odds that most agnostics...

What would the equivalent to abuse of a loved one or a disabled person be in this context? On an anonymous forum like this we're all just virtual entities - what repercussions have we to fear from our decision to participate or not participate? Besides, ignorant morons are people...

Let's not haggle over the analogy; it's really just a song and dance to set up the proposition that it's an either/or situation. However, if you can think of a rim equivalent in the case of the world's coming into being I would like to hear it. Truly. No sarcasm. I think you'll find...

Cesko... I wouldn't know where to begin with this one. Generally, it's best to put on the old thinking cap before posting.

You're looking from under the glass table and seeing which side is down. I wouldn't cheat. Honest.

For the sake of argument: The coin is tossed on a glass table. You look from under the table and see that the head side is down. You infer from this that the coin toss resulted in a tail. You proved that the toss was a tail by proving that it was not a head. Similarly, if the...

The most fundamental tenet of Christianity is that we have free will and are responsible for our choices - hence sin, redemption, Heaven, Hell. How does this jive with what you say here?

I'm not a real Christian. I'm an agnostic who loves the basic logic of Christianity and has a lot of respect for those who understand it as Shoe appears to. I have nothing more than a gut feeling that there is something we might call 'God' somewhere that designed the world and bestowed free...

Yeah, well.. what is truth? Seriously, Man.. we have to honor the principle of free speech and it never hurts to know what's out there, disgusting or not.

Basically on your side Reardon, but let's face it - all the major races have engaged in genocide.

Probably the more complex a group's social infrastructure the more fragile it is and the more likely it is to collapse into anarchy and a sub-savage state when a devastating disaster strikes. In the Lord of the Flies case the boys were merely marooned so they were able to pull themselves...

I think when you refer to 'white communities' you're probably thinking of middle class white communities in which the cultural taboos against primitive behavior are sufficient to maintain stability in the population. Primitive cultural attitudes are maintained by chronic desperation...

Some generalizations are useful such as 'all white hot objects should not be picked up with bare hands.' but others like "all blacks are subnormal" are useful only to those with a simplistic agenda. We all crave a less complex and confusing world but lumping all members of a race into the...

Please - some Christians. Not all Christians think alike. In any case, there might be an intresting debate in whether or not anthropomorphism is necessarily infantile. Are we distinct from the 'eternal energy'?

It's just your nature. You were probably born with a genetic propensity to ponder and had some sort of support in your earliest, formative years that activated those genes. Sounds like you're like Turok - hanging out with the wrong kind of Christians. The advent of Christian...

OK, Shoe. Maybe this doesn't apply to you, but historically there's been a tendency for people to understand the human function in terms of the technology of the day. Today it's computers. Think of the many computer metaphors we use to describe our mental functions ( "Joe is programmed...

We are almost certainly incapable of knowing the mind of God and so can't grasp God's motives, but if God answers a frivolous prayer and ignores a desperate one it has to make you wonder about the nature of God's attitude to our sufferings. Maybe God needs us to suffer so that we can...

Given the premiss of this thread I can understand why you see my post as a retreat, but I am not nor have I ever been a proponent of Intelligent Design in the form that qualifies evolution. My approach to ID ( as a possibility ) is cosmological. I presented the post you quote merely as a...