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    Intelligent Design is not creationism

    At the moment, scientists can "see" a huge void in the universe: http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/070823_huge_hole.html No one's sure what it is, but my point here is that it's not certain that what we see is all there is to see. I'm just being argumentative. I don't see a...
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    Intelligent Design is not creationism

    A short life only if you accept the currently accepted cosmological model. My point is that as soon as you insert a creator, you throw science out the window and everything becomes possible, including a universe with an infinite lifespan. If the universe has existed forever in some state...
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    Intelligent Design is not creationism

    This consciousness proposition is the central dogma of intelligent design, i.e., the premise that the 2nd law of thermodynamics prevents reverse entropy in all circumstances. However, in a published scientific paper, "Evolution of Biological Information," Dr. Thomas Schneider, PH.D., proved...
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    Intelligent Design is not creationism

    My experience is that a fundamentalist Christian will use whatever evidence supports his/her theory of existence, despite any contradictions. There are fundamentalist Christian organizations that support the Discovery Institute. The trial in Dover, PA was all about Christian fundes using...
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    Intelligent Design is not creationism

    A rim equivalent would be that the universe has always been. It may be expanding now, and it may start to collapse later. But, the point is that the idea of a "beginning" is a human construct. Just because everything we observe in the universe appears to have had a beginning, doesn't mean that...
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    Intelligent Design is not creationism

    Why must the universe be the same as a coin and provide only two choices? Why can't the universe land on the rim of the coin?
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    Evolution - A Weak Argument for the Anti-Supernatural?

    Okay... The implication of #1 requires the premise of a designer. This is true, because if there are no other universes, then there is no way to compute the probability that the universe might have turned out differently. This is true, because in order to compute a probabiity, you need an...
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    Evolution - A Weak Argument for the Anti-Supernatural?

    Um, I think your explanation is incorrect, but I'll hold my tongue until I've had an opportunity to check with a couple of well-respected high-energy/theoretical physicists. Stay tuned...
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    Evolution - A Weak Argument for the Anti-Supernatural?

    I notice that you didn't deny it.
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    Evolution - A Weak Argument for the Anti-Supernatural?

    Ah, that's so much better. No sense in hiding behind a new pseudonym after you've been "outed." Welcome back.
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    Intelligent Design is not creationism

    Huh? The existence of design is quite testable. The U.S. Patent Office conducts such research every business day. I'm not being flippant, either. Something is designed if there is evidence of a designer. A primitive design will display primitive technological underpinnings (stone arrowheads...
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    Intelligent Design is not creationism

    Perhaps we should wait for a Christian to explain.
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    Intelligent Design is not creationism

    In as much as your response was entirely non-responsive, I agree that there's no point in our discussing anything on this subject. Please don't respond to my posts and I won't respond to yours.
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    Intelligent Design is not creationism

    I've always granted that there's a "chance" of design, thus you cannot require me to prove the negative, because I already concede your point. However, if design is true, then how do you explain all of the evidence in support of evolution: 1. Satan's work? 2. Deceitful creator? 3...
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    Intelligent Design is not creationism

    I asked for evidence of ID. HH insisted that I define evidence. I defined evidence. You now insist that I define test. Okay. A test is any regimen which can be repeated, and from which a result can be obtained. Now, I'll ask you again: do you have any regimen which can be repeated, the...
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    Intelligent Design is not creationism

    A verifiable test supporting the hypothesis that the original cause of living organisms on Earth is an intelligent designer. So, I'll ask again -- is there any verifiable evidence to support intelligent design?
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    Intelligent Design is not creationism

    If brilliance is measured by one's ability to avoid substantive conversation while insulting others, then Z was indeed brilliant. And, if I may say so, you are already doing an admirable job of following in his footsteps. Will you be discussing the substantive issue anytime soon, or...
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    Intelligent Design is not creationism

    :confused: (musing to self...what a curiously Z-like question. Perhaps he's not gone after all.) Since you apparently believe this is an important point, why don't you tell me what your standard is, and why it should be applied here, and maybe I'll adopt it.
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    Intelligent Design is not creationism

    Okay, then what evidence do you have that evolution is goal directed?
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    Intelligent Design is not creationism

    So, you concede that the ATP synthase could have evolved -- you just don't "think" that it did. Okay, well, the evolutionary "thinking" is summarized nicely in this video which affirmatively explains each step of the process, based upon only mutation and natural selection...
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