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It's the difference between back testing on historical data in a flat file and live signal generation from a live price feed, transforming those prices with some very complex math, feeding the new file into a neural network modeling application which has to load a large number of saved models...

You did find my email then with the word encrypt? Your "story" transmutes itself with amazing speed!

Here is the file in question in this discussion. Folks can then make thier own judgements as to it's relative value in a trading system, if any.

You are correct in terms of my due dilligence. I was never told development base for their platform and didn't ask. Had the pjoject proceeded that would have come up for consideration in due course.

Mr. Crisis, Try reading the email I sent you on 2/19/08 at 1:12 PM To quote myself: "In terms of sending you an ActiveX, we would need legal and financial agreements in place for that. There would be significant up front expenses that I'd require from <snip name of corporation> in...

Yes, contact me privately for client referrals, brokerage statements, or more information.

Dear Crisis?crisis, Looks like you’re on the newsgroups …. Perhaps looking for another trading system designer? Quote from crisis?crisis: Here is what really happened. ---Response: Well not really…. I got a great idea, let’s take the 40 or 50 emails we exchanged, find a...

Sorry, I read your wording wrong. I never sell systems but design them and sell or lease the signals, the output of the modeling process, not the logic or design. To sell the whole system I'd have to also sell the 3rd party neural network application that generated the models as they need to...

If you read the post of Mr. Crisis with precision you'll note the following "Why did it occur to novice traders like us ". The word novice doesn't mean experienced Jerry030

You have it reversed, I was approached to deliver trading signals for their trading platform. I had no interest in their platform as X-Trader and Ninja offer more features.

I supplied an out of sample model back test with that profit factor to Mr. Crisis, he did not develp it, I did. Jerry030

Not the case as I spoke with the CEO/President guy, who has the same last name as the name of the corporation and it's a rather strange name. You wouldn't use it for a corporate name for any other reason than to show that you own it.

I've got the ability to automatically export a model to a number of languages including C++, so they, perhaps not being too technical, may have assumed you just look at the packaged code and have a programmer explain the logic.... I don't know except that the word "encrypted" ended their...

Very lame considering that it's a real company, with a real web site and real customers in a industry unrelated to finance or investing. I could see it from a couple of guys working in their basement but usually to create a mid-sized company you have to be fairly smart and if you call on someone...

I think that's what they thought they were going to do. It's the only half way logical theory I can come up with since the relationship vanished within 10 minutes of me using the word "encropted".

Over the last few weeks I’ve had an interesting and often times humorous interaction with some folks who contacted me privately on this site. I’ll share the derails for what they are worth and let other system developers decide how to invest their energy in similar circumstances. My area...

Curve fitting is a term that really requires some thought before it can have a good or bad meaning. Given enough variables and a genetic algorithm one can create, given a few hundred billion process cycles on a high end PC, an almost perfect trading system. You have fitted the system rules...

Oops, ahh yes, got it thanks.

Bespoke, You said: "This would be a profit factor of 10. You are god-like if you can achieve this through a system." Could you expand on what you meant in this relative to the market traded: stocks, options, futures or Forex? Additionally when you said system, what type of system did...

Quote from horribilicus: In my opinion, "winkb" is a good trading system. Its performance was detailed in this post: http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1191992&highlight=winkb#post1191992 However, Microsoft has changed its browser so it no longer reads old ".mht"...