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today was one of those days that dont come along too often and traders really need to CASH IN while the market is paying us off... frustrating when you dont make enough...i got "stuck" in some pairs for too long so the short side cut deep into my profit...still made bout 500 but today is the...

i am probably reiterating mostly, but what is difficult is liek talked about he doesnt change the quote so oyu dont know if a print is coming or not and where it will be printed, but what can be good or bad is where i guess the updated quotes end up, aome times i get one of these "stealth fills"...

are you sure it was a NYSE print, sounds like it may have been on another exchange if it didnt "clear the book" as you said... didi you have an order in, where was it routed to, did you get a fill... OH, and as far as the new liquididty thing, its just "the man" trying to keep us good traders...

here is that other thread... http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?threadid=14722

i think the new liquidity quote is the cause of what everyone is starting to see...as far as i know it started on an experimental basis last week, i have seen it in WMT and heard JNJ and MRK mentioned too to name a few...we started another thread on this with more info, i'll post the link if...

this new thing might be downright criminal, if you trade WMT you know what i am saying....complete BS today, although i still made money so i am not just crying sour grapes!

dent did revise his estimate form 36,00 to 35,000 so lay off him! what a joke, his credibility is shot anyway he has nothing ot lose by toting dow 35,000... i take this thread name is fesicious, but the nasdaq plunge from 5000 is not minor, it essentially confirms the 90's were all BS

btw... sure most of you already considerd this, but the dow dropping to two decade low would be about dow 1000....

no. if i had 10 million i would be in a lot of cash and treasury and enjoy life...

that already happened, last year, i think novemeber or give or take a month, nikkei closed lower than dow for the first time... race to 5k is pretty funny, but who will win on the way back up? i checked today i think nikk is down another 100, "thought" the world markets might get a bounce...

they give me a headache, but if he and others make money from it, more power to him

does anyone else know anything about possibly software linking quote to the spoos... this would seem to confirm what i have been seeing too, that the spreads appear to be unusually sensitive to the spoos... when i first noticed this i was thinking, damn these guys are good, and fast, or is my...

i am starting to see this now too, the quote remains the same i.e. 25.05 x 25.10 1x1 and you see several prints outside the market, in any event its not the same as it used to be...seems liek sometimes you still get the improvement but the specialist has more leeway to "screw you"

i am surprised more guys arent talking about this? i havent seen or heard anything yet clarifying how price improvements will be handled...it sounds like to get this quote you will have to pay for openbook

everywhere i have always traded has never been perfect and always could have some difficulties during the hi vol, volatile and fast moving times...certainly soem are better than others but i think you just have to learn how to deal with it and execute trades during these time...i.e. when i was...

i dont care why i just got long and enjoyed the ride

Market Orders When a liquidity bid is published in addition to a best bid, a market order to sell of a size greater than the size of the best bid will be executed to the extent possible against the best bid (or the order will be crossed by the specialist when he or she is acting as agent for...

one more comment, i havent had as many price improvements either, and sometimes just outright screwed as never before... for example the market is 48.05 x 48.10 and i put in a buy at 48.15 just to make sure i get the fill, he fills some 10's goes and fills me at .15 and then goes on printing...

i have been seeing it on WMT and getting the improvement, however the print is outside the market and the quote never changes...in fact there was a crazy one in WMT today during the morning he was showing 48.00 x 48.05 and printed a 48.50 i thought it was an error, but sure enough he gapped it...

agreed