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Not quite sure I understand this Thread....Just curious? What's a "Newbie Program Trader"?.... And are you saying the market should have bought, but because of these "newbie" programs traders it sold into the low's?.. Thx in advance for the reply.:cool:

I firmly believe that Price and Time is the only information relevant to the market......I believe this because markets are engineered from within....The market trades to the area of prices where buyers and sellers meet to bargain or "haggle" the market higher or lower...... IMO It's Time...

LOL...Yeah I know I'm just bitchin off tonite couldn't help it....It's just sometimes certain losses really piss me off....I guess I let my ego get the best of me even though my ego has lost me alot of money in the past.....LOL Not really ashamed of my losses because I know how to...

NO WAY!!!!.....LOL No offense friend but, that would be foolish at this point with all that i've been through....I've had trades were i lost 8k a half hour made twice that in less than two hours.... I know what i'm doing i just don't always do right..That's why i say It's Stupid.. I mean...

Thanks man...It's just annoying that's all.....I can see what I feel and the market tells me I was right!... But, every now and then I get this other voice in my head and it makes me do stupid S#*t...Out thinking myself and then I get twisted up.

That's how I feel today.....I got caught trying to go short @ the open and the obvious happened...I feel like an ass!!...I guess that stupid GDP report suckered me in even though that kind of stuff is BS to me I bought into it :mad: ..Then on top of that, I presumptuously felt that the 10am New...

Could someone explain how order flow in the emini's could affect The daytrader, or if it affects a daytrader negatively or positively?... and is it a good idea to daytrade 1 lot Big S&P's with 35k? I hear people say; many traders don't understand order flow and that's why they lose...just...

Good Call Man!...You were the first one on this site who was concerned about the gap down earlier in the week....Hope you were able to profit from it.....Whatever happens now won't matter.....You were wisely concerned at the time....Others here just like to pop off at the mouth!

What approach do you use?.....I know some people who are solely pivot point traders. While others are technicians, or fundamentalist.....There are some traders who never use a computer or any technically advanced method and are extremely profitable..... I try to keep my approach as simple...

No, I'm not defeated by this at all...And i'm quite aware that we all trade off information....But, what I'm saying is; All Information is subjective and left up to the interpreter for its validity or credibility. I hear people all the time concerned about what's going on in Japan or other...

That's all you have to say hairdresser?...I would expect you to try and rip me a new one because I'm a newbie with only a handful of post here.....

What do you think the main difference is ?....I'm curious to know how the winners and the losers on this site think....Although, I don't expect those who are struggling to openly admit their failings because of the very personal and emotional nature of trading....But, it maybe helpful to talk...

Now were cooking....LOL....Let's have some real time in the game convo. No offense to tech talk or the philoshpcial but, who's putting money to work tomorrow or not! FWIW.. I think the overnight session is pretty meaningless for the most part, unless the open confrims the price...

My sentiments exactly. Now, here's the secret that the "Big Boys" know and the other 99% Don't;....."Buy the Low and Sell the High";..."But don't buy the Low if it's selling from the High"....Or worse, Sell it from the "High" when it's buying from the "Low". Think

Thanks Dave. It's funny with all you just mentioned you still didn't even touch the aspect of those supposedly "evi"l Program Traders for index arb's or asset allocators.....lol....The market is so enormous!...."I love it" The possibilities are endless.... Before I used to love the...

LOL....True, but in a casino the risk is artificially created for the sake of risk.....the market risk of supply and demand are real and cannot be manipulated to "beat the public"...at least that's my opinion.

Hmm..that's interesting. Those are some definite big players...Some say the market is engineered from within and I believe this to be true more than ever now....There are guys who know how to buy the low and sell the high everyday....and That doesn't mean the market is rigged.

Is it possible to take on a position of 1000 or more contracts in the S&P at one time? Obvisouly for the off the floor trader, or the"regular guy" it's unlikely but, I wonder who does?.... There's inifinite potential for gains or losses in the market...It's what makes the market so wonderful!..