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i mean i guess you can call it misleading if you believe apple would have sold more then 2M more iphone 4s' in the last week of the quarter, had the 5 not come out. however, i do not think they would have.

sorry but you are trying to claim you just made $700,000. will need to see screen shot of fills or you will be the first on my ignore list ive also never heard of "lot" in options, im assuming a "lot" is just 1 contract?

neither one of us ever took it, he said want to bet it wont hit 550, i said ya ill bet, but you have to make a counter bet that it will hit x on the long side before the holidays. for instance he would have to say it will hit 610, or 620, or whatever his number might be by the holidays. then i...

BTW atticus I won our little bet. too bad the only thing on the line was pride. GL in your trades

cactiman, does it worry you at all that since 2007 apple has sold more smart phones then anyone else, until last quarter when samsung sold 18m and apple sold 16.5m?

ah okay i get what you are saying, that makes sense

thank you for adding so much constructive information.. i consider a tracking error to be where an etf attempts to track 3x the move of an index. so if the index moves 1%, and the etf does not track exactly 3%, then i would call that a tracking error. costs and maintenance fees and spreads on...

how about this, short 100 shares of qid for every 100 shares you long qld, and see which does better. the goal is to test what effects the position more, tracking errors or borrowing costs. the overall difference won't be more then a 1% a month so its not like you are taking a huge risk in...

well, shorting QID and longing QLD is the same position, minus tracking errors. so shorting QID at higher prices, is the same as longing QLD at lower prices. Take a look at a 5 year chart on any of the 3x funds, short or long. they all have one thing in common, they head to zero. This is due...

ya my long term call on apple is they settle around $300-400 which would still make them one of the top 5 largest companies in the world. btw i said i would go long apple at 550. im taking this back on this morning's headline. samsung galaxy s3 is officially the best selling phone last...

im guessing you are one of the many losing on apple? i mean why else would you enter a conversation you arent a part of. you are also ignoring the fact that atticus is the one that started the douche baggery on this thread. so ya, when someone like that tries to flex his muscles, i will...

why not instead short 200 shares of QID? its the same position as the one you just took, but now tracking errors go in your favor instead of against you

whats even more funny is the headlines now, 150 points later. time to sell apple!

hey atticus apple just printed 550 which you wanted to bet back when it was 595 would not happen before the holidays..2 weeks later it just happened. moral of the story. im right, you are wrong

Where were all these apple lower calls 2 Weeks ago? I was the only one calling it now it seems like everyone is.

for anyone that reads this, i WOULD be selling a CAT 85 nov 16 p for 1.5 and a UTX 77.5 nov 16 p for 1.16. however my broker for some reason clears me for covered calls and not naked puts, even though they are the same exact position. still all cash for now.

? has today not triggered a buy order?

you need EXTREMELY high volume to even think about using the word capitulation. apple is still within its range of volume and is still in the downtrend channel line. im guessing you are losing your shirt on apple and looking for any sign that you might stop losing your shirt??

trading sure is a strange thing, im happy today is the biggest down day of the year as i am still 100% all cash. im happy apple is taking a full on nose dive with no end in sight. im very unhappy that my job just got impossibly more difficult for the next 4 years (no one respond to that...

oh and by the way, today is the kind of day where if apple hits 550 i will NOT being going long :D