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    Securing successful strategy from the broker stealing it

    For people who do not have multi-layered strategy and depend on price action of for example AMD to trade AMD (linear input -> linear output), one solution could be to request dozens of charts of AMD (different time frames and different indicators) at the same time; then make a decision (based on...
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    Securing successful strategy from the broker stealing it

    For scalping, I do not know what happens. I have to think about it.
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    Securing successful strategy from the broker stealing it

    @volpri Revealing your position only helps in pump and dump scenarios. Otherwise, you run the risk that the crowd joins you to push prices up, but decides to unload (close position) before your large size. Jim Simons was in stealth mode during late 2019 accumulating TSLA. You think he could not...
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    Securing successful strategy from the broker stealing it

    No time for your monkey yoyoing. You will be fine. Your beta replicator strategy will not be copied. Finito
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    Securing successful strategy from the broker stealing it

    Please kick this @Sig guy out of the forum, to have constructive conversation. Who is this clown?
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    Securing successful strategy from the broker stealing it

    So, what is your position? Would the broker (or staff) attempt to steal good ideas or not? Please clarify your binary choice so we can argue for or against your point. Take a position in the argument please, and stop dodging around. Respectfully
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    Securing successful strategy from the broker stealing it

    @ sig. It did not happen to you because your idea was random luck or pure beta replicator. Do not kid yourself. It will happen. If the senators jeopardize their entire "political career" to liquidate before the Covid19 sell off, you must be a fool to think the borkers (or their staff) are not...
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    Securing successful strategy from the broker stealing it

    As virtusa and qaz have mentioned, it is very likely that the broker steals the idea. If possible they reverse engineer it to check if the logic flows, if not they will copy it (crowd it), or frontrun it as they sell the order flow to hedge funds. The bigger and the more technologically advanced...
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    Broker against profitable strategies

    Thanks for explaining your side of the business.
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    Profitability despite lack of dumb money

    It definitely shows skills and the skilled man cannot be categorized as dumb money. Still I consider the 100% anti-correlation a sort of risk sophistication that my over simplified reward/risk statement does not cover, but we all know that in terms of other risk metrics your example shows the...
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    Profitability despite lack of dumb money

    Thanks I enjoyed your style of thinking. As you say there are certain groups that are obligated to play, and for them profit motive is secondary either because hedging or etc is their primary goal.
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    Profitability despite lack of dumb money

    anyone who achieves worse reward/risk metrics Vs buy and hold. Basically, wasting time to achieve subpar Vs the passive inaction
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    Profitability despite lack of dumb money

    thanks for the explanation
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    Profitability despite lack of dumb money

    I was wondering if traders on elite trader associate the profitability of their strategies to the presence of dumb money in the market at all. Do you see any future in trading if the attitude of the participants changes and it gets tougher to hunt down their capital? Thanks
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    Broker against profitable strategies

    Yeah broker diversification in the context of asset protection is important. I personally have the experience of PFGBest going bust, after some traders (with/without consent from the upper managers) martingaled on losing positions to the point that eventually they could not carry and margin...
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    Broker against profitable strategies

    I appreciate your input. I personally would not do the first 3 points, because I am afraid that they expose me even more. But your second 4 points are very valid. One other glimpse of hope is that for the market maker to hit certain levels, he's gotta move the other related markets and that's...
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    Broker against profitable strategies

    billv, I 100% agree with you. This "mirroring you magnifies your success" mentality is very dangerous. 1-They overcrowd the trade by mirroring, 2- The levels become more noticeable 3- This will create a new incentive for the market makers to play against levels that were not as rewarding before...
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    Broker against profitable strategies

    Thanks for the suggestion
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    Broker against profitable strategies

    Thanks, logical and clear
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    Broker against profitable strategies

    Thanks I appreciate the sincerity. Yeah could be the damage of all these years. The accumulated damage actually.
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