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But jefferies my man, that is exactly the point. Those miracles never happened either. You have to open your mind to the possibility that the book is wrong to see truth as dictated by the evidence. If by chance you can come up with a documented case of prayer raising a man from the dead i will...

You have hit on why i went to all of the trouble to post "Why wont God heal amputees. As believers we always have that nagging feeling that maybe something about me is not good enough to allow God to answer our prayers. Christianity is very good at refocusing Gods failure to act back on the...

So what is Gods best excuse for never answering life or death healing prayers? What part of these verses is hard to understand?There are no qualifiers here. Matthew 17:20 For truly, I say to you, if you have faith as a grain of mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, 'Move from here...

So if a fine christian mother is praying for her 15 yo daughter to survive a heart disease (true story)and those prayers are ignored, Gods excuse for ignoring it is because "you don’t get them because you want them for the wrong reason--for your own pleasure."

I am going to take this thread in a new direction for a while in our search for the truth. Mav claims that once you believe you can never not believe. He has accused those of us that changed our minds of never believing to the level that he believed. In other words our belief was inferior to...

"Quote from Maverick1: But you see, lkh wants a god that he can fully explain, one that he can define completely and accurately, in other words, he wants a god that he can neatly fit in his little box. Only then would lkh be satisfied, but would he? The truth is that lkh has made a god of his...

Actually the place Jesus calls hell does exist. Here is a picture of biblical hell. It is a place called Gehenna: http://www1.christianforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=26264

Or nobody is going to hell. Hell isnt even mentioned in the Old Testament. The concept of hell was formulated later probably as a way to scare the sheep into submission. http://www.religionfacts.com/christianity/beliefs/hell.htm Hell in the Old Testament The idea of hell (as...

Is not this a true representation of christianity today? the Calvinists say the other denominations are not true christians, the Baptists say the Catholics are going to hell, the Jews say they are still waiting for the messiah. A person would think that all of these people who claim to have...

The example i gave was from my own church. Here is another example of what i am talking about. These people steal the money in the name of Jesus. Jesus does not seem to mind though: Joyce Meyer A recent series of investigative articles in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch revealed Meyer's...

Does Satan do the same ? That is do you have to believe Satan, trust him,have faith in him, believe his word or seek him, to hear him, or does Satan make himself known without imposing such conditions ?

I could do that but i have done extensive research on the subject and religion fails there too. Most of the christian churches are terrible in the charity department. The ones i have studied go something like this: 90% of the money recieved goes for salaries for preachers and to pay for and...

Proof #49 - Look at who speaks for God In Christian mythology, God is supposed to the the all-powerful, all-knowing creator of the universe. God is supposed to have incarnated himself as Jesus and he is supposed to have written the Bible. And yet today God is completely and absolutely silent...

archimedes i am impressed with the depth of your knowledge and logic on this subject.

I have always thought that the most dangerous thing about religion is what it does to the mind of the believer. Religion is the ultimate us against them mentality and explains why so much killing has been done in the name of gods. Someone looks at the evidence and comes to a different...

We both know its impossible to prove a negative. That is why superstitions always last. There is always some who think "just maybe". Its the same emotions that make stock and vitamin supplement scammers so successful. People want to believe. I have to run. Leaving for a long weekend with the...

Truth and evidence wrecked my faith. The very concept of faith is an insult to human intelligence. If you take something on faith, you are in effect saying, "I don't need evidence, facts, or logic. Evidence is worthless, facts are for ninnies, logic is nonsense. I'll believe whatever I want even...

Freedom of religion does not mean freedom to force your beliefs on others. Things like trying to force prayer in schools and force creationism taught in schools is what i am talking about. I cant see what you are complaining about. You already have the government start every day with a prayer.

Yep. Born again, baptized, the whole works. Maybe God sent me to set the record straight. If you believe and keep it to yourself i have no problem but that isn't good enough for this younger generation of bible thumpers.They will not stop until religion is institutionalized in america. That...

The bible clearly says that the flood killed every living thing on earth. A local flood around the black sea would not have done that. Are you selectively picking verses to make things "fit" your bias? If you stick around maybe i will deal with the flood in my next series. I have not decided...