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You need to remember that the Able Danger guys found out about the terrorists beforehand and what they were up to. But they were prevented, by mandates initiated by Clinton/Gorelick, from talking to the FBI. The reason for this mandate was to be able to use intelligence info in a trial AFTER a...

So I'm wrong then, ok... Here's a hypothetical question - Suppose for a minute that I agree with you that the towers were brought down in a CD. Forgetting all the rest, would you agree that the manner in which they fell - not the cause - could be described as pancaking ?

But the thing is, a controlled demo would be the CAUSE of the collapse. I thought we agreed that the columns buckling, etc was the cause.I'm talking about manner in which it fell after the collapse began. Too bad you can't get that through your thick skull. Because if you could, you'd be able...

LOL, Fine by me...... :cool:

One more time - now pay attention, son.... NIST’s findings do not support the “pancake theory” of collapse, which is premised on a progressive failure of the floor systems in the WTC towers (the composite floor system—that connected the core columns and the perimeter...

Don't cry Bitty, not ALL of us are against you.... It must suck to be you, eh? After spouting your cocamamie stories, do you notice people laughing when you walk away? Ever wonder why?

You're a liar Ratturd.... I never brought it up, Mav did. He asked something or other if pancaking made the transformers blow, and I said no. I guess you can't read for shit. That's not what NIST says at all. You want to start over? Again, NIST has no opinion about the pancaking, neither...

Ok Rat - regarding pancaking, it's like I said... The NIST and "Pancaking" The massive weight easily caused a "Pancaking" effect but unlike the original hypothesis, the pancaking didn't cause the collapse. It was a result of the collapse. Update: Conspiracy theorists are taking the...

Lol I wrote the first response to Mav, and you jumped in and quoted me..... If you want to butt into someone else's question, you had better be prepared to agree with the others' position..... Oh, but I see you're gone now, no doubt "gearing' up....

And what do you want in your balloons? Hmmmmmm?

So then you agree that the steel was on site until May.. SO on what level are you claiming those "govt sites" to be shite? Huh???

You, Ratboy..... what's the diff?

So then you're saying that the cleanup didn't last until May too?

I seem to have a groupie, looking my posts up now.... scary.... FYI - I didn't trade in 2004. Not until April 2005 in fact. And no, I didn't use Wize... You see, that's another function of ET, you know. A person, a nontrader, can come here and get advice from others who DO know. ANd ok...

So..... now that you see that THE PANELS fell at free fall speed, and the building didn't, are you gonna quit claiming that blatant lie???? Please say it's true. If you can, then maybe there's hope for you after all. You might even become a skeptic of the Alternative Story....

More lies by CT'ers, Ratboy.. Wake up, you're being lied to... May 29 2002: As the last steel column of the demolished World Trade Center was removed Tuesday, construction workers at the site were honored for their work there since September 11th...

Thanks, so by your own admission you have no idea about workin' iron..... So how are you able to judge the claims made by the CT'ers? Are you THAT gullible? Do you have ANY experience with the real world, you know, how things REALLY work?

The first exterior panels......... So the exterior panels fell through the air, right? Sounds like free fall to me, yep. Under THAT condition, the panels can't do anything BUT fall at free fall speeds... But what about the rest of the building? Or are you claiming that the whole building...

Wrong, I trade for extra money. I have a real job... I build choppers as a hobby.... And how much did YOU make trading this year? What did I read in the P/L thread ? $4k..... LMAO....

Here's the funny thing - I never claimed any pancaking - Mav did. ANd you've been busy chasing your little Rat tail all this time.. In fact, I said NO to pancaking.... LMAO -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote from Maverick1: So...