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The point at which it violated all accepted UN principles by launching this attack.

Right traderkay, it is becoming increasingly apparent that the WMD reasoning was complete bullshit. If he did have them, I can hardly think of a better time to use them than an all-out, illegal attack on his country. Still, let's not be too rash -- like our pro-war eggheads -- because there...

Yeah, what a bust the metric system was. Nevermind that there are only 3 countries in the entire world that haven't adopted it. (US, Liberia and Myanmar.)

Can't have what dude? Just say it. What the hell is that I can't have?

To catch what Babak? He said "in 100 years". So that's another 25 presidents in 100 years dude. A little quick with our trigger fingers, instead of our brains, Babak and TM.

Just take a wild guess Cubano. :) It's not the America nation, or the American people that I hate, I've said that many times. I don't particularly like them, either, they are just another people, just another country, as far as I'm concerned. Where the hate comes into it is the...

He'll be remembered though, as another in a long line of American war criminal presidents.

Oh yeah, I forgot about Powell's little dog and pony show.

That's not legitimacy Optional. Legitimacy being a funtion of whoever happens to be in power is the working defintion of illegitimacy! Mankind's tendency to justify the cruel means by which he satisfies his greed -- and the disastrous consequances that entails -- was precisely why...

Don't just assert it Kymar, show it. I'm certainly persuadable, so point me to the evidence and let me evaluate it for myself, rather than just taking you at your good word that it exists.

What "unconvential action"? Do you have some link?

Maybe cos Iraq had nothing to do with 9.11?

Excellent points Aphie. "It's about oil" doesn't mean it's "about oil" for the American Nation/People, it means "it's about oil" for the fat cats and their pals. Anybody that cares to take a glance at American international affairs over the last 100 years will easily conclude that in at...

But your spin doctors never tell you "bullshit lies", oh no.

Because makes a difference if it's the country conferring the medal -- Congress -- or a division of the military. If it's just the military honoring one of their own, then I think it is permissible, because it's not their fault their selfish leaders sent them to fight this illegal war. If...

Yeah ok Optional. I'm just some tatooed Latino walking around in a tank top, drinking beer and calling people homes...

Jeezus! Can you fucking cowboys do any more to piss off the entire fucking world?

Excellent point!

TM, I'm going to speak very slowly, just for you. I - told - you. The - ramifications - of - what - happens - in - America - for - other - countries - is - too- great - to - ignore - it.

Yeah, right. Like the rest of the world really gives a fuck about Bush. The length's you'll go to to close your eyes to the fact that people around the world (and in your own country) actually find this was absolutely sickening and completely unnecssary is astounding.