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Surf you call people on here who disagree with you strugglers and strivers. There is no misinterpretation. You can't just leave it at people who disagree with you as people who disagree with you. When you go this route you come off as an arrogant prick. That's why people tend to "attack" you on...

Was that so tough. Thank you. I agree with you that people who claim to make 3x the daily range are on a day to day basis are full of shit. . Right now that would be like 66 handles in the ES. But you imply anyone who takes the other side of your arguments ether is a wannabe or doesn't make...

I never asked you to name names. Just give an example of what they did. I'm sure you will duck this question like most of the other ones after you make a bold proclamation....

You use this personal flaws stuff as a crutch. I have known some great traders who had insane personal flaws. As you said.....get real man.

Yes his long term performance is horrible. As bad as one can be. If anything his short term performance has been great at times. All you have to do is cherry pick.

Surf...it happened more than once. Again like I have mentioned before. I have done a gazillion futures trades. Sure ...made errors at times. But never bought one month and sold another claiming to close the trade out. Whatever dude. Talk about a phony.........

Ok Mr. Mind Reader. Give us an example. I just gave one.

How in god's name would you know they aren't profitable ? You mean if they buy September Dow futures and say they got out using December's price. You know....lying. To me that's pretty clear of what's going on.

Yep. You beat me to it. He wonders why 95% of the people go for his jugular on here. I try and be civil with the guy but shit like this makes it real tough.

This is one of your major flaws Surf. You think everyone who doesn't agree with you on this VN bs is jealous or struggling. Seriously man. You come across as a grade one a-hole with this stuff.

Yeah...I'm a big fan of their food. Eat lunch there at least once a week. The stock is a monster. Why anyone would short it is beyond me...... I agree with you on the draw down thing. They always come. If one doesn't know how to manage risk it can.....and will turn into a disaster. Been through...

Surf you have completely left the reservation. Greatest living speculator? Wow.....

Thank god he returned the capital or he would have blown that up as well. You make it seem like he was responsible ??? That's a hoot. Wise enough to know his limits ? You should be on The Comedy Channel with this stuff. The guy traded well beyond his limits with the leverage he used. He lost...

Man you are the master of ducking questions and cherry picking. This other guy's post is spot on. You have very little consistency in what you say. You can bash one thing if it's coming out of someones camp you like, but basically trash the same thing if it comes out of another one's.

Sure the people who got in and were smart enough to see how reckless he was as far as risk management got out and did well. Those who just happened to be around ? That's comical. It's not just those who happened to invest who got obliterated....it's everybody. People who were in from day 1 who...

I hear ya man. That's most likely the case. But if someone is going to charge people for their market calls/trades they really have to be able to back it up. Surf makes a point about going after such people on here. I applaud him for that. But now he's kind of falling into that category.

Surf, Do you have a track record for your calls (Price drivers) so potential clients who want to pay for your site can see what the whole thing is about? After reading the below I have to think you do. "one must also consider the very real alternative that those who don't provide records...

No need to apologize. Strange requirement that a newsletter that gives out trades should have to say "don't use our information to trade". I don't see how stops could degrade performance. But it's not the first time I have heard that. I guess in a world where every trade is an instant winner...

Surf now I am completely confused. You are offering trade entries and exits/stops. Then I read this: "Data presented is for educational purposes. This information is not designed to be used as an invitation for investment in any trade suggestion" Am I missing something here?

I actually went and looked at it Surf. I see you use "stops". Weren't you the guy who said that stops are for weak hands? That was a quote of yours. A bit of a contradiction of what you say on here no ? So it looks like a stock/index call service.........do you have any proof that your...