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SethArb- not sure what market you are referring to but . . . "they" consistently "hit" huge B's and "lift" huge O's ALL DAY . . . during reg market hrs in the spoos/naz/etc its all part of the 'game' the best rec i can suggest to you, demonet, is observe and actually trade whatever market...

earlier post "All have different style in trading super fast. They place huge fake orders and even push markets in some direction. They trade such huge sizes that they try to mislead everybody. They place huge bids even though they try to sell -- then they takes out the bids and sell the...

yes, I would include 275 on that list . . . but they also clear brokerage as welll as prop

ES should become more 'interesting' once we can sling (& bluff!) 400 a clip . . . goodbye to the pit for good?!?

Fortis, Gelber, Hammer, Jump, Kingstree . . .

Jayford there was a really good thread on this a few months back I would do a search on ET

a lot of 'smoke & mirrors' in the NQ . . . esp in regards to the ES relationship

and I thought the low vol today was due to holiday . . . must be the absence of the locals who were rocking out on Addison & Clark last night . . . thanks for the theory WDG!

TTN has become FADE the NEWS! and yes, ttn has moved to ny

es vol has exceeded x>1mil before . . . but impressive considering today's range

I'm pretty sure IIT (IL Institute of Technology) and Kent State now have disciplines in the Financial Markets/ trading as they have received endowments to set up "simulated" trading rooms. But as others have stated . . . trading is a craft you must learn in the real markets

it 'seems' as if the demise of the sons caught the market somewhat off-guard (when it was reported on MSNBC) . . . whereas it 'seems' as if the market is expecting Saddam's capture/demise any day now

just sniffing out the next 'bubble'