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if moodys and fitch even think of removing the AAA rating the following will happen 1) a whole alphabet soup of govt organizations will rain down terror on moodys and fitch, create a whole bunch of bogus charges and some real stuff (like not rating subprime debt appropriately during the...

does anyone know what the settlement price of the SEPT 08 ES future was that closed 9.30am EST today?

wow wonder if that will stick http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/quickchart/quickchart.asp?symb=iwm&sid=0&o_symb=iwm

you guys all gonna let this run for the next week? or anyone taking partial profits? Im inclined to let it run to 115, but maybe im greedy

lol i got some 1260 ES calls for sept 19 i think they expire at 9.30am EST? right? wonder what they get settled to cash at?

well its not as bad as it sounds i exaggerate at the peak i was short 1 ZB for every 30k of capital (when it was around 123) but it was a LOT of contracts

anyone know what time EST the ES sept 19 options close? I think they are slightly different than normal because they are quarterly options? cant remember tho

how can company insiders defend against a group of large hedge funds with literally 100s of billions of dollars? if even GS were getting taken down, how could anyone possibly defend themselves?

How many people seriously believe this is going to come into effect? I certainly don't, and net i'm long the market

im so short ZB I couldn't possibly be any more short, talked my book on this thread many a time been shorting all the way since 117 all the way up and almost wet my pants the one morning when i woke up with ZB at almost 125

Nitro is right, if this is approved, we may see ES print 1300 tomorrow the upside of approval is that they have to remove it at some point..... and that is the day of reckoning..... where all the shorts will pile right back in. I personally think this is a short squeeze / dont mess with...

ok but the key is it hasnt been approved this could be a good short entry if they dont follow through, guess we will have to wait till market open tomorrow?

is this all speculation, or can someone please post a verifiable SOURCE

wells thats how my book is positioned but lets see what happens i guess....

I think we will see ZB at 110 within 3 months, thats my prediction.

BTW with marking on that nosedive and VIX skyrocketing, ZB never took off..... in fact ZB hasnt moved all day whats all your take on it?

tell me about it they crashed their platform forcing me to call in, then gave me attitude thats why I lost my temper lol

yeah, unfortunately for the NY'er that used his attitude on the cocky south african, didnt work out so good for him..... CEO of the brokerage is speaking to the trader now

have you guys ever had screaming matches with a trading desk at your brokerage? I called in this morning to unnamed broker, their platform was mostly down yesterday, so some of the trades I made yesterday had vanished off the accounts. So i called them and asked them politely if I should...

source please