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    The bitter truth about Patak Trading

    handle123 my sentiments exactly . cl is a risky proposition for any new trader trading the es or nq are the smart choices to consider then again some traders like to gamble , to each his own
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    The bitter truth about Patak Trading

    The bitter truth .. it's a waste of time .. multiple threads on this bs someone can trade on a sim account to get the basics down then open a retail account & trade a small live account there is no free lunch , hopefully most people realize that
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    The bitter truth about Patak Trading

    agree with you on that . there is a lot going on with the es most traders would say they rather trade the TF for volitility the TF is one contract you can make money with if your good always good to get other views of what someone likes to trade What other contracts do you like...
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    The bitter truth about Patak Trading

    there is no volitility in the past year , we need some everyone like's something different , good to have choices i know you traded different instruments in the past & now your back to stocks again Have you spent much time trading the cl contract ? What is your view on trading...
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    The bitter truth about Patak Trading

    been around the block for many years , seen it all anyone that traded indexes back in 2008 & 2009 Insane volitility if you can handle that & make money .. your good my point is new people need to develop good habits & trading a whippy contract is not a smart move to me I am...
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    The bitter truth about Patak Trading

    the cl contract is too volitale , cuts both ways . so based on that most people would discourage a new person from trading it I am surprised you don't like the es & encourage especially a new trader to trade the cl you have a different view on this vs most traders It's all personal...
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    The bitter truth about Patak Trading

    colonial dr the 1 year contract is a joke , glad someone else realizes the flaws It's a program for people that are learning with the hope of getting funded , go for it i can't agree that trading the cl contract is a good choice for any new trader the cl crude oil contract is a...
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    TopstepTrader and Patak Trading Partners- Any and all questions answered here

    hi mav74 thanks, yes , no easy answer , my guess is most prefer to trade stocks then other instruments futures are tougher to trade for most people , a different beast Not a matter how much money but overall consistently profitable day trading stocks is the favorite & most...
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    TopstepTrader and Patak Trading Partners- Any and all questions answered here

    Hey Maverick 74 From your experience on both sides of the fence , your opinion talking about pro's , what group has consistently more profitable day traders over the past few years Are there more profitable stock traders or futures traders out there ?
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    i want to be rich! fast!

    that is a great plan. just don't get caught the only downside is the 3 hots & a cot & some anal raping you wanted to get rich fast , you have to think outside the box
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    Prop firm Monthly payout

    the majority of prop firms only pay out 1 time per month they lock up your capital & make you wait for your profits trading used to be easy , now your fighting for scraps to stay alive
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    TopstepTrader and Patak Trading Partners- Any and all questions answered here

    Maverick 74 From your experience on both sides of the fence , your opinion talking about pro's , what group has consistently more profitable day traders over the past few years Are there more profitable stock traders or futures traders out there ?
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    WTS Proprietary Trading Group LLC, Miami FL

    usually they offer a 50 % payout for that rate . that is a terrible deal you can do better then that , depends who you talk to at wts
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    Prop firm Monthly payout

    thanks don i thought so , the weekly pay is a big plus for your traders Is the minimum with bright to open the prop account still 20 k ?
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    The bitter truth about Patak Trading

    Why would a trader want to sign a 1 year agreement ? if someone is making money newbie or pro in there first few months most people would just go open a retail account , a no brainer there is no need to accept funding with trading futures , if you have a clue you trade , you make...
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    i want to be rich! fast!

    if you want a real challenge , don't waste your time trading just pull a armored car heist , you will be rich beyond your dreams You have to think big now . time to make real money
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    The bitter truth about Patak Trading

    this program is designed for new traders that want to learn how to trade futures for most experienced profitable traders we know this is not a good deal . there rules are stict & commissions are higher then retail accounts if you can make money trading futures there is no real advantage...
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    Prop firm Monthly payout

    don you know how the rules work with most prop firms , no one pays salaries especially at wts Lol. getting paid weekly is a plus with some prop firms traders with bright , would be allowed to Only take profits above there 20 k risk captial requirement to my understanding Don ...
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    Prop firm Monthly payout

    your welcome, the rules are not to our benefit , the lockup rule does not protect the trader at all the majority of traders keep a minimum amount of capital in there account to trade with for numerous reasons with any prop firm once any prop has your money , your at there mercy key...
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    Prop firm Monthly payout

    You can Only take profits above your risk capital amount that is locked up the way it works with WTS & the majority of registered prop firms the firms have to protect themselves against any trading losses , now its a rule with lockups with most firms FYI All money that you deposit in...
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