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I realize the dangers so I set myself up with the following: a) Retail acct for swing trading options and stocks that I keep at a certain dollar amount. Anything I make over and above that threshold goes into my retirement fund. I've made this money back a few times over so I would consider...

That's a tough story NY, sorry you had to go through that... The part about your wife is what resonates with me the most - ruining myself is one thing, but potentially taking down my family with me was just too big a risk. I kicked around the idea of trading full time but decided against...

@ Dalmation I'm curious about your story too? Why waste your valuable time trading and/or posting in a trading thread when you could "easily" be out crushing the competition in the business of your choice?

Haha, a lot nicer than mine, but then again, I don't own any restaurants either - coincidence?? :D

Lol, love the reference! :cool:

Why wouldn't a Whaton MBA want to own a reataurant if they enjoyed the restaurant biz? Even as a side project? There's undoubtedly plenty of dollars to be made. When I was an estimator, I worked on a 15 million dollar ocean-front mansion in North Vancouver... guess what business that guy was...

I'm not quite sure that I follow your logic here. Being a smart guy owning a business doesn't necessarily equate to that business being the most successful, or even successful at all. How many businesses fail when owners become disillusioned - or "lose their passion" for what they're doing...

I'm not going to debate that both trading and running a business are both extremely challenging but this statement seems pretty bold. I can't see how a person can "easily" be the most creative and smartest in their industry. Surely it must take a tremendous amount of passion and dedication...

I'm just curious, what attributes would you consider to be beneficial? It seems to me that it would be hard to succeed in any challenging endeavor without a passion for it.

Hey SM I trade the evening sessions too (West Coast) and your fills really depend on how thick the order book is and if there's enough momentum to blow through your resting order. I can't personally speak on the ES overnight as I trade 6E and I also have never used OEC's trading platform...

Check out this thread for context and you'll see why you shouldn't even bother with this fool... Notes123 officially one of the worst ET'ers http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=220513&perpage=6&pagenumber=1

Lol - I highly doubt it but just in case! If that is the case, your English took a pretty quick nosedive so I'm guessing you didn't write it yourself. Second, it's far from hilarious, it just makes you one of the worst people I've ever encountered...

Or there might just be one fucking idiot in front of his computer whose name starts with Notes and ends in 123... Funny how everyone else in this thread but yourself, including the OP who you went off on for absolutely no good reason, are "idiots". Disagreeing with someone is fine - being...

Congratulations - You've just won "most ridiculous post of the day" award....

Jesus, why don't you STFU! Somenone comes on here, gives an honest account of his experiences (good and bad) then tries to offer what I'd consider some pretty sound advice. You don't have to agree, but instead of bashing the guy , why don't you go pick up a book on english and how to fucking...

Sounds pretty slick, anybody know of something similar for NT?

Yeah I switched to AMP a few months ago because of the CQG feed and I've been happy so far. Admittedly I only trade after hours and am pretty low maintenance though. I see they finally expanded their demo instruments too (one of the things I questioned initially).

yeah, we get it "they lose, they just lose"... every thread I open I have to read the same line. Did you even open the link to see what the subject was? I'm not going to pass any judgment on the quality of the work unless I've read it but I can certainly respect somebody who puts forth the...

+1 I subscribed right off the hop and enjoyed the early postings. Too bad we have haven't seen much from ESK since...

Options Oracle is pretty good for a freebie too http://www.samoasky.com/protfolio/