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Here is the chart so far. the icebergs are smart enough to get out at end of beginner trade because they know the beginner trade ends in congestion and trading the "chop" until convergence and centering come up.

Alain and some others are tumed into this. They are working it using an orientation that comes from wash trades being improved by trading on the right side of congestion. They are simply using the end effect of a fast paced trade going into congestion and trading the opposite of getting...

Using a minimum of focused indicators and price and volume seems to work best in the context having sequence lists of indicator, price and volume signals. It is like a tree where the sequence is continually advancing and at branch points you eliminate the alternatives that could be coming up...

I log potential stops in a trading log. I C&R periodically according to the market pace. To connect my stop log list to the pace I offset by a fixed number of entries. I stay tigher in faster paced markets. when my logging fails to produce new potential stops I know I am near the end of a...

Attached is a partial chart of today.

Do not worry about being out of the market. Siting around not losing money is a great idea whose time has come. You probably noticed that those posting their trades are making over 90K a year prorata. We will begin to see wash trades soon. The fact that there are few posts is a good...

Hi Alain, We are using "wash" here as an entry and exit at the same price. Later when we get into the details of ends of fast trends, we can take up the opposite of getting whipsawed. This is when you do trades with the congestion, convergence and then set up "brackets" on the centering...

Whew! lol....

With some help from a friend we got a chart with few enough bytes to transmit. Thanks dawg for the values you listed. It is in the journal. The last week of so is a very good practice time for staying on the sidelines. The MACD is particularly helpful for this. You can see also the gap...

This chart is the trades for the day. Since I am in LA I am using a trader friend's set up. NB the 75/25 on both Stocs. By synch (third 5 min bar) short entry was possible. Exit was on blue fast line. I drew horizontal price values. After 11:15 MACD kept us sidelined. Between end...

Your comments are right on and very precise. the ice bergs (intermediates) were (are) slogging along with few signals. The beginner signals may be frustrating in comparison but they really do achieve getting a near consciousness. The syych is important. The open "end effects" secrew...

nearly 13:00. Now you see all the stuff we expected. 4 O'clock drift on low volume. Lower volatility. "entwined lines on stoc and MACD. we are set for the signals that i suggested would show up for making money If not we stay at a low risk place: beginners sidelined after a...

here is the spectrum of how back testers have reported: .84 for a loss of 5,878 over five years; .71, for a loss of 12.735 over five years; and this post. i hope this continues to parallel the effort. The next most helpful runs will be based on : 1. Alain "entwining" observation...

This is a fine call and that is how it is for now. I am introducing "entwining" vis a vis alain. Your next comment is great too the MACD says no and this indicates a flat market. You can see the money velocity on a trade is very low. Here is where you practice wash trades if you took on...

It is hard to make the point of how money is made to get to a place to make a living trading. It takes less profit per day than is generally understood. I prefer to stay with one contract until the money velocity gets high enough. But your point of using small profits and adding contracts...

Okay you are in the ball park now. You will see in the journal that I just want to establish a trend as being there. This means the market is no longer flat. I am using, on the 5 min, a range of MACD (5, 13 ,6) between +.4 and -.4 as the flat zone on the histogram. This is a fine point...

Below within the quote I made some suggestions to help you get a starting point that is correct. Basically your MACD is wrong and so are the exits. Both of these things will tend to cahnge the results. The exit will cause a lesser result as blueberry cake says and the MACD being correct...