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that was a potentially engineered refueling rally. after all it's all engineered most of the time, especially intraday.

1513 - 1511 should pause this move down temporarily. still lower for me after that.

Buying area 1503-1497

one thing to note is that I am still long as I am entering into my short play and vice versa. This makes it hard to violate my % risk per trade. If you are uncomfortable with averaging, stop yourself out into the opposite direction.

Anyone else have a buy area @ 1503 ?

and when I am in the area of action, I have 2 choices. 1) Average into the trade. 2) Stop myself into the trade with full size (breakout / breakdown).

To sum up, I do high frequency scalping which is automated. I do intraday swing trading the waves and position trading. The high frequency scalping is a different method from the swing and position trading. I use a system based on the Taylor Book method concept to identify the areas of entry...

What I hate to see is traders being stopped out on moves that don't mean a darn thing. This thread has attempted to guide you on how to avoid that situation.

Buy1Sell2- I want to apologize for losing my cool with some other ETers in your thread. It's allergy season, nerves are shot from the sneezing and runny nose. Heck, I even aplogogize to those I was bickering with. It's not my style...

DMartin- Hmm, people hiding behind multiple aliases. Kinda sounds like a multiple personality issue, schizophrenia comes to mind. Attacking and defending when cornered. My son, it is you who needs corrective help. Perhaps a direct line to Dr. Phil would do you well.

Why are you still playing hide and seek and hiding behind an alias? For sure you have some issues that need nuturing as well.

I'll give you 10 if you give me 10. But then what's the prize? Lance, DMartin, and even Prince of Princesses. Cmon. 10 maybe 20 calls each. Eh?

cmon, put your rep on the line and give some specifics lancy boy. Don't try to look smart with some seven year old generic statement like that.

Lance you forgot to delete your post and DMARTIN, come out of hiding. Now these are clearly psycho behaviors. Is Dr, Phil in the house?

Yesterday, Steve46 mentioned something about balance turnover and institutions. There lies the clues that show up on any chart, any timeframe, any market. Experience and a good eye will see it clearly.

I believe trading can be mastered if you concentrate your efforts on how you will react to price rather than desiring to predict it. With enough humility, the desire to predict will pass and you will advance into a whole new world of trading simply.

Breakout or breakdown. Question is did you ignore all the nonsense and position yourself to catch the continuation of the down move or the breakout into a potential new up move. No one knows except price. Listen to it. No worrying about bulls or bears, tick or tack, 10:30, 2:00, yada yada...

Very interesting. Thanks.

"They approach the market as an unknown, and then back in to it's characteristics. " Beautifully said makosgu. But most approach the markets as though they know it and disregard it's simple characteristics. Now run those simple characteristics thru a genetic algorithm engine and you start...

Stupid1: Hey Im long what do you think? Ego1: Don't worry about it your good, the market should shoot up from here, the bulls are in control. LOL LOL LOL