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both are excellent and I am a member of investorsintelligence, however, you have to subscribe to them, stockcharts can be free if you don't need the paid features

I wasn't trying to discourage you from back testing it. I would be interested to see your results. :)

You could back test it in IRT, but if you are looking to back test 1000s of stocks or something that may be a different story heh.

I read a back test study a long time ago that went into some depth and I think someone even posted a link to it somewhere in this thread but it did not cover stocks. I may get flamed for this but I'm not a big fan of back testing (however, I forward test every day).

ooops, guess I should have read further before replying to things

I've used them, they are excellent (one of the best retail brokers out there IMO and masters of options). It is unfortunate they do not have P&F charts.

you stumbled onto my charts eh? what sort of questions do you have, I can tell you exactly how I traded them since they are my charts :)

One box reversal charts are typically traded a bit different than 3 box reversal charts...emphasis being on fulcrums and the like.

InvestorRT should have everything you need. The things that aren't in should are in the works (at least the things I consider essential)...I haven't seen any mention those things in this thread...so I don't think you will miss them just yet. :) Oh I should have said that IRT is using tick...

those charts are completely worthless if you are a P&F trader no offense meant to you of course :)

now that's a pole, lol

Here is a tip... to reproduce a renko chart...try a 2 box reversal. ;) P.S. These are typically traded quite different than a 3 box reversal chart though.

Hopefully, this doesn't get answered later in this thread since I am reading through from the beginning. You can have indicators and oscillators on P&F charts, the software just needs to support it. Keep in mind that certain indicators and oscillators are not useful on P&F for obvious reasons.

just stumbling on this thread... tick data is the best, then intra-day, then daily high/low, then daily on close P.S. I am glad to see other people are recognizing IRT's P&F enhancements. I have been working with them for a very long time on it and I have to give them kudos for working...

I worked with their developer quite a bit on the P&F charts and I would say they are probably the best you are going to get here in the states now. There are a few missing features (such as targets) but supposedly they will be putting those in as well. I am referring to Investor R/T

Steve, Do they have software that supports live data feed? I know who Wright is but I was unaware that he had software.

I didn't like them, and they didn't do everything I was looking for, not even close. Don't get me wrong I am not bashing QuoteTracker, great program for free...it just didn't have the depth I was looking for in P&F charts.

When I was looking for a good live P&F charting package I didn't find much out there. I use P&F on futures and forex. I talked to InvestorRT about it and they have been doing quite a bit of development and enhancements on their P&F charts since then. Lots of stuff going into their current...

thinkorswim's platform is horid if you are looking for speed & execution (ease of use)...not to mention the margins though I must say....you will be hard pressed to find a broker with such great service...I use them for options trading I use ninja/zenfire for futures trading (looking at...

jtnet, I don't really care that most people don't know how to use them, what counts is that I know how to use them :) tiddlywinks, yeah I've been looking and most of what I have seen isn't great...mostly all designed for eod...lost art (at least applied to streaming tick data).