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Uummmm....going into the weekend short looks pretty good right about now !

Actually still long and underwater on my blockchain (not coin) positions. My current response was to a post in your thread that illustrated no basic understanding of basic economics.

Actually NO....please refer to ECON 101. Take @johnarb with you.

Well then forget the gold and BTC. BUY GUNS AND AMMO. Because if it really hits the fan, that is the lowest common denominator.

As Scat implies.... The ETF is just the packaging, it is getting the direction/call on the underlying that is important...AND THE HARD PART !

Live by the phone...die by the phone. Good ATT signal though !

...any thoughts ?

Then sell the damn thing ! (Or don't buy it). It is not too complicated. That is why it is referred to as a stock MARKET !

Actually I'm pretty sure there are versions of ATR that does just that. Check out stock charts.com. Search ATR, I believe they discuss it there.

@Muffhands did you post files of HYG ?...thought you owned JNK. Anyway good look, I believe they are both index weighted

Re read my post. Gave my source and tried to be helpful. Take what you want, leave what you don't. Good luck, the best investors know when to adjust a position that may not be what they originally thought. For a great example of this search Carl Icahn's reversal of his initial short...

Ok my last response. LOL, those companies represent less than .50 % positions. Yes , that is less than 50 BP. Per Morningstar institutional reports...65% energy...22%indust 2 stares out of 5 4th quintile performer It has actually UNDER PERFORMED the Barclay HY INDEX by 200 bp (2%) per year...

Meaningless when it comes to HY. it is all about credit risk. For the most part energy HY is about exploration and fracking. Price of WTI drops, so does this subsector.

Until the dividend is cut. If the price is falling, many times it is indicative of problems in the underlying securities. No free lunch. For example...in any HY portfolio the risk is default where not only is cash flow lost but net asset value as well. That is why when you are playing in...

Just like any other chart.

What ?...your second paragraph makes no sense at all. anyway, hope you want to be long energy. JNK buys largest part by capitalization of the high yield universe, which is (and as long as I can remember) energy nothing wrong with that per se, just should be aware. With the short end of...

I know you started this thread as an excuse to get your riff out there !

No you would not. Your existing position would continue to decay even if you were right directionally. The "geared" ETF's replicate single day moves, they get eaten up by choppiness and time. Search the forum for more details, it has been covered to death.

This is fantastic as long as your accumulation period and your retirement yrs(at least the early ones) corespond with the long term bull. Many near retirement were so spooked by the 08/09 draw down they sold, down 40 percent, never to get back in. Missed the full next run, now have 20 + yrs to...

Why don't you chill with a little Stoli. It is an internet forum, calm down. You posted , and people were just responding with the obvious problems you have with your investor structure.