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Another way too look at it is this. If any entity exists with perfect knowledge of the future, this implies that the future is predetermined. If it was NOT predetermined, it would be impossible to perfectly see it. A predetermined futures allows no room for free will. The actors...

Wow, Originally posted by goldenarm The Bible is NOT proof of God. No argument there. Everyone in agreement here! :D Originally posted by goldenarm Because I believe in God and I was raised a Catholic. In other words.... he holds a belief irrationally based on his...

My big foot raised a man dead for 4 days and then kicked him in the ass. My big foot raised ITSELF from the dead after three days just so he could kick this guys ass. My big foot be God. peace axeman

Nice work? Tripack has not accomplished proving the existence of god. He conceded on one point, and I cleary showed why his second point was invalid as well. Free will was not being taken away from humans merely because god offered proof of himself. So far, the theists have made...

None of us exist? Would you like to attempt to argue that you dont exist? From what position are you arguing? Non-existence? :D Obviously things exist that cant be perceived by our "natural" senses. Thats why we enhance them with technology. Thats just stating the obvious. I dont...

BINGO rs7! It would only prove he is capable of turning water to wine. To test for god, the participants must FIRST agree on a definition of god, and a fair test which would prove that the person was god. If we defined god as someone who is capable of zapping galaxies in and out of...

Actually I did. Your are choosing to ignore the obvious. If I were god and wanted to prove to you that I was omniscient, I would simply come to you and claim, HEY! IM OMNISCIENT/OMNIPOTENT AND CAN PROVE IT! ASK ME ANYTHING or ASK ME TO DO ANYTHING. After asking god to do, oh say...

I never said that you claimed there are more capable entities. But im calling bullshit on your use of the word limited. You have a theme of implying that humans are completely incapable stupid little creates. Not sure why. You said: We, and our ability to understand the objective...

Very limited? By who's measure? If a snail were capable, I bet it would think our ability to understand the objective universe it quite grand :D Are you aware of some superior beings hiding somewhere that are more capable than we are of understanding the universe? Why jump to such...

It depends on your definition. But since you assert these "concepts" exist, why dont you tell us about some of them instead of simply asserting they exist and therefore daniel is wrong. Until then...just another empty assertion. peace axeman

Let me simply restate that your argument is till flawed. Lets see why.

LOL! Oh really? I challenge your SCARED LITTLE GIRL POWERLESS SELF to show us your OMNIPOTENT powers and stop the atheists from ever posting to ET again. Anyone wanna take bets on this one? :D MAKE US!! LOL :D Oh thats right...your cant. Powerless WIMP! peace axeman

The THEIST charge continues!! Here they come!!! :D

Your are claiming that an omnipotent/omniscient god is POWERLESS to make us UNDERSTAND his omnipotence/omniscience??? That in itself would prove that he is NOT omniscient and omnipotent because he is not smart enough, or not capable of making us understand. Your argument is...

Hehehe.... yeah Stu, If I were god, and this little group of scientists came to me asking for proof I wouldnt be messing around with water to wine and little baby miracles like that. In a split second I would take them to 1000 other galaxies and show them the universe. Make the whole...

Picture of the THEIST CAVALRY in action!!! :D peace axeman

Cavalry? All I have seen so far is Kermit the frog riding a poodle. :D Still waiting for a strong argument from ANY theist on ET. I think the atheists shot gun trigger fingers are exhausted from shooting down weak theist arguments. PULL!! :D axeman

Excellent approach. Capable how??? This makes no sense. I would say that if you really want the highest probability of knowing the truth, look to science. It has the best track record. The lowest probability? I would say religion. It gets debunked more and more every year and is...