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That's actually a great thing you posted When I want out of a trade and hit a hotkey to exit my position if I get an immeadiate fill at a good price........ oh crap this move isn't finished... luckily I usually peel out of winning positions and still have more shares which...

market orders are constantly bunched with other orders and than matched with opposing orders. The specialist doesn't always participate with Market orders either.

The volume of that the floor handles is over 80% and is routed to NY yes Tea that's right. but The Specialist only takes about 20% of the other side of those orders that 80% of the floor takes . Not 100%. http://www.programtrading.com/buysell.htm Take a look at the top line as it...

nope He's not there is no uptick rule on NASDAQ it's an Upbid rule. As long as somebody bids higher than the last bid you can short that bid. Not as effective slowing downs shorting in a down market as the uptick rule for exchanges. Robert

I've been interested in trading the DAX and would be open to hearing more if others have suggestions/comments. Robert

thanks for the update guys Robert

Since this original post/topic has already been covered read this thread http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=124045&highlight=andover#post124045

thanks late night last night edited my post

The other thing firms have is their reputation. Andover has had a few sub LLC blow outs. There is no denying that. But ask around Mike P. the owner of Andover isn't stupid. He hasn't lost a trader to a blow out yet. He has brought traders who were hurt due to poor risk management...

If that's a big concern to you stop by the office sometime and meet the traders see what they do.

If you trade Prop there is no insurance. That's why we trade with money we can afford to lose if something happened. Usually their minimum is just $5000. So come into the firm with the minimum. If that's a lot of money to you than you might not be in the best position financially...

Any books/videotapes or something you'd recommend? Robert

The hours for trading them in CA are great :D

I'd add Lumber and Oats to that list. REALLY illiquid.

4 banger Neon to a V8 BMW. Call your insurance company for a quote on insurance, and look at your annual cost of fuel. It's about to REALLY jump. Than there is the cost of repairs. Last time I looked BMW mechanics/parts are more than Dodge Neon parts. Get all the facts than you can make...

Eurodollar Pit has all the locals doing spreads of different contracts. If you want to trade it short term. Trade the Eurodollar spreads. Robert

anyone else want to comment on the meeting?

PM HarmonicPatrick He used to trade the grains everyday for a few years. Robert

TradeStation has a monthly users group that meets in major cities. Might interest you to check them out.

I'd welcome a position trading forum