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I agree I neglected the industrial silver usage factor. But how much does it contribute to the divergence? Silver was following gold in past few days, and copper has more industrial usage than silver, but it is going positive this morning. Even index futures are positive.

Why Gold and Silver Diverge? Both gold and silver are supposed safe heavens in market crash? Why now the two are at extremes of the futures market, +3% and -3%? My theory is that the market down turn is ending. Big money is slowing moving toward safe heaven; small account holders...

U.S. has 3 concurrent wars in hands, no position to fight another, unless who ever pulling the war trigger does not give a damn about American treasure and blood. I always suspect Israel's war, America's fight.

Evidence?

It is worse than a financial company making emergency call in weekend. G7 and G20 had emergency calls this weekend too. All pointers say Monday is going to be bloody. But you never know for sure.

I have been googling on the downgrade today. I learned from somewhere that nothing, state/local gov, private company, can be AAA if U.S. is not AAA.

I often hear people compare U.S. vs. Japan. The too are fundamentally different except gov ran into huge debt. Japanese save a lot, American gov and people both are in huge debt. J-gov can take money from people to stimulate eco and lend, U.S. can only print

Interesting results 50%+ think it is going to go up. A of traders did "bottom" fishing last Friday. You know G20 had crisis call among member deputies on the downgrade today, Saturday. They could have waited after the Weekend.

Can not read the chart clearly. Did it fall 10%+ during the day?

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A little inside: http://youtu.be/MPd8FOVKHVw

A lot of people knew the empire (u.s.) does not have clothes(broke), it takes S&P with its influence to spell out. It will have consequence, people using phrases like, 'grave', 'Armageddon' in reporting the downgrade. I bought gold futures and silver etf Thurs and Friday. I am hopeful next...

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People must be bored to hell, trying to gain bits of excitement by faking trades.

U R the Hero! What is the percentage gain?

China says it is supporting EURO despite ...

John Paulson down 20%, Oh boy...

IRA has millions of tax payers to deal with, he probably got away with it. Is 7 years the statue of limitations for fed tax?

Boys feel insecure about their groan, any threat to it will provoke fierce response. :D

Should be in chit-chat. Hope your groan is well-protected. LOL.