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The fact that some do both gives us an opportunity to look for answers. If we look at stastics of people who just get vaccinated and then look at the stastics of believers who get vaccinated and pray what to we find? We find that both have the same outcome. Conclusion, prayer fails again..

Some top traders do. While it might be entertainment to you i am sure some actually think about it.

I started out as a believer. The realization that the bible story just did not add up made me search for the truth. I would have spent the time in any case because i was looking for answers myself. Now that i have learned the truth i share it. What benefit do i receive? None really. In america...

My search for the truth has been a long one. I am simply sharing what made me see the light in hopes others still sitting on the fence will be able to make an easier decision. I am not forcing anyone to stop believing in whatever version of god they believe in. I simply ask that you read the...

Understanding the Rationalizations If you ask a religious person about Jesus' divinity, you may find yourself in a conversation like this: Norm: If Jesus is God, why didn't Jesus ever prove that he is God? Chris: He did! He performed many miracles, and he was resurrected. That proves...

Proof #14 - Examine Jesus' miracles If someone were to come to you today and say, "I am God!", what would you do? Yes, you would immediately ask for proof. Of course you would. And you would not want goofy proof.You would want real, solid, tangible proof. No normal person, and I mean no...

Maybe you guys could start you own thread and have your battle there. I would like this thread to be a nonconfrontational exercise in religious logic. Thanks.

Understanding the Rationalizations Many believers will argue that God had to talk this way in the Old Testament in order to "fit in" with the dominant culture. This, of course, is silly. In Christian mythology, God is the one who created humans and human culture. In addition, a God that...

Proof #13 - Take a look at slavery Here are ten passages from the Bible that clearly demonstrate God's position on slavery: Genesis chapter 17, verse 12: And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or...

Proof #12 - See the magic When you look at different religions, they usually contain "magic." For example: The Mormon religion contains the magical golden plates, the magical angel, the magical seer stones, the magical ascension of the plates into heaven, etc. The Muslim faith...

Proof #11 - Notice that there is no scientific evidence There is no scientific evidence indicating that God exists. We all know that. For example: God has never left any physical evidence of his existence on earth. None of Jesus' "miracles" left any physical evidence either. (see this...

Some of us hope that education will eventually overcome the superstition of religion. So we keep trying to educate. For instance you say you believe because of a near death experience. What if we could educate you on the science of a near death experience and you were to learn that it is a...

Proof #10 - Look at historical gods The belief in "god" seems to be ubiquitous through the ages. We know, for example, that the ancient Egyptians believed in their gods so fervently that they built massive structures like the Great Pyramid -- still today one of the largest and most...

Proof #9 - Understand ambiguity Let's imagine that you have cancer and that you are a believer. You pray to God for a cure, you undergo surgery and chemotherapy, and the cancer does in fact go into remission. What cured you? Was it the chemotherapy, or was it God? In other words, is...

Proof #8 - Think about Near Death Experiences Many Christians find the phenomenon of Near Death Experiences (NDEs) to be proof that "God" and the "afterlife" exist. As described in this article, an NDE contains these characteristics: The sudden awareness that one has had a 'fatal"...

Jem, when i am done with this series i will deal with the prophecies. They are not what they seem. Thank you for the idea.

You mean to tell me that I am supposed to believe this story of Jesus, and there is no proof or evidence to go by beyond a few attestations in the New Testament of a Bible that is provably meaningless? - Yes, you are supposed to believe it. You are supposed to take it on "faith." No one...

Another example Imagine that I tell you this story: A man was sitting in a cave minding his own business. A very bright flash of light appeared. A voice spoke out one word: "Read!" The man felt like he was being squeezed to death. This happened several times. Then the man asked...

Proof #7 - Understanding religious delusion Let's imagine that I tell you the following story: There is a man who lives at the North Pole. He lives there with his wife and a bunch of elves. During the year, he and the elves build toys. Then, on Christmas Eve, he loads up a sack with...

That is ok. I don't want this thread to become a battleground. I simply want people to read the subject matter and reflect on what they believe and why they believe what they believe. Thank you.